Fort Drum Waste of Time

[Franz69]

I'm kind of hoping some of that military toughness rubs off on HCSS and he stops punting at the opponent's 40 yard line:

"An army is a team. It lives, eats, sleeps, and fights as a team...And we have the best team—we have the finest food and equipment, although our uniforms could use a little more orange, the best spirit and the best men in the world. Why, by God, I actually pity these poor bastards we're going up against, especially Wake Forest."

"I don't want any messages saying 'I'm holding my position.' We're not holding a goddamned thing. We're advancing constantly, going for it on fourth down and we're not interested in holding anything except the enemy's balls. We're going to hold him by his balls, Hunt is going to punch him in the helmet, Sloan is going to go all Tanner Boyle on him and we're going to kick him in the ass; twist his balls and kick the living out of him all the time. Our plan of operation is to advance and keep on advancing, one bubble screen at a time. We're going to go through the enemy like through a tinhorn."

"All right, you hardnosed sons of bitches. You know how I feel. I'll be proud to throw my visor and lead you wonderful guys in battle anytime, anywhere. That's all."

-General George S. Patton(paraphrased)-

 

[Crusty]

I'm kind of hoping some of that military toughness rubs off on HCSS and he stops punting at the opponent's 40 yard line:

"An army is a team. It lives, eats, sleeps, and fights as a team...And we have the best team—we have the finest food and equipment, although our uniforms could use a little more orange, the best spirit and the best men in the world. Why, by God, I actually pity these poor bastards we're going up against, especially Wake Forest."

"I don't want any messages saying 'I'm holding my position.' We're not holding a goddamned thing. We're advancing constantly, going for it on fourth down and we're not interested in holding anything except the enemy's balls. We're going to hold him by his balls, Hunt is going to punch him in the helmet, Sloan is going to go all Tanner Boyle on him and we're going to kick him in the ass; twist his balls and kick the living out of him all the time. Our plan of operation is to advance and keep on advancing, one bubble screen at a time. We're going to go through the enemy like through a tinhorn."

"All right, you hardnosed sons of bitches. You know how I feel. I'll be proud to throw my visor and lead you wonderful guys in battle anytime, anywhere. That's all."

-General George S. Patton(paraphrased)-

Made my afternoon - thanks.

 

[SUFaninNJ]

17.9.2.3 Five-Day Acclimatization Period. [FBS/FCS] In football, preseason practice shall begin with a five-day acclimatization period for both first-time participants (e.g., freshmen and transfers) and continuing student-athletes. All student-athletes, including walk-ons who arrive to preseason practice after the first day of practice, are required to undergo a five-day acclimatization period.
(b) During the five-day period, participants shall not engage in more than one on-field practice per day, not to exceed three hours in length.

17.9.2.4 Preseason Activities After Five-Day Acclimatization Period. [FBS/FCS] The remaining preseason practice period shall be conducted as follows:
(a) After the five-day period, institutions may practice in full pads. However, an institution may not conduct multiple on-field practice sessions (e.g., two-a-days or three-a-days) on consecutive days;
(b) Student-athletes shall not engage in more than three hours of on-field practice activities on those days during which one practice is permitted;
(c) Student-athletes shall not engage in more than five hours of on-field practice activities on those days during which more than one practice is permitted; and
(d) Student-athletes must be provided with at least three continuous hours of recovery time between any two sessions (e.g., practices, walk-throughs). During this time, student-athletes may not engage in physical athletically related activities (e.g., weight lifting). Time spent in team meetings, film review, receiving medical treatment and eating meals may be included as part of the recovery time.

Checkmate

 

[GoSU96]

During the school year, absolutely.

When school is not in session, the teams can practice as much as they want. There are mandatory non-hit rules in place for football, but if they want to do 11-on-0 drills they can do that until its 2AM in the morning.

You mean in June and July sure they can do whatever they want on their own, but once supervised preseason practice starts, it's as regulated as anything else.

 

[orangeinjersey]

if we won 8 games would we still be asking to cancel this lol

 

[anglerman]

Anyone else think that this Fort Drum experiment needs to end? I don't think it helps us at all. Do any other teams do anything like this?

Hey genius why don't you explain exactly why you think it's a waste of time? This might be the most foolish and useless post I have ever seen on this board. Beyond ridiculous !

 

[Forza Azzurri]

Anyone else think that this Fort Drum experiment needs to end? I don't think it helps us at all. Do any other teams do anything like this?

Fort Drum is not just about football.

It's about things much bigger than football.

It's about life.

 

[anglerman]

Fort Drum is not just about football.

It's about things much bigger than football.

It's about life.

For some one to suggest being around the military and learning the discipline and the teamwork that is involved is waste of time should just not post at all. I mean why even mention it? Why would that even cross some ones mind?

 

[Millhouse]

Fort Drum is not just about football. It's about things much bigger than football. It's about life.

Who cares about life. We need touchdowns

 

[WickedOrange]

Jesus Christ... Didn't anyone see Rocky 4.

This is a non-issue.

 

[Bortukal]

Jesus Christ... Didn't anyone see Rocky 4.

This is a non-issue.

For the uninitiated/communists...

*SPOILER ALERT!* Rocky beats the Russian.

 

[Chris02M]

no need to cancel it. I would move it to earlier in camp if possible though

 

[Millhouse]

For the uninitiated/communists... *SPOILER ALERT!* Rocky beats the Russian. YouTube Video

My sister did the worst spoil ever. Old man hadn't seen it, it the middle of the fight she casually walks through and says oh it's so sad when Apollo dies as she walks away. Old man puts his head in his hands as I yell what is wrong with you

 

[Bortukal]

My sister did the worst spoil ever. Old man hadn't seen it, it the middle of the fight she casually walks through and says oh it's so sad when Apollo dies as she walks away. Old man puts his head in his hands as I yell what is wrong with you

That's just...wrong.

 

[CuseTroop]

My sister did the worst spoil ever. Old man hadn't seen it, it the middle of the fight she casually walks through and says oh it's so sad when Apollo dies as she walks away. Old man puts his head in his hands as I yell what is wrong with you

Last year I was at my father in law's house. He had just caught on to Sons of Anarchy, he was like, 2 seasons in. As his Girlfriend was walking in the house, I asked "Who's your favorite character?" Natrually he said "Opie" and his girlfriend shouts "Opie's dead!!"

Dude lost it. I could have went Ray Rice on his daughter right there in front of him, and he still wouldnt have been as upset.

Worst spoiler ever.

 

[RoysRunts]

Discipline/Honor/Loyalty/Integrity/punctuality/obedience, how to deal with adversity/problem solveing as a group/being responsible for their own mistakes, watching out for one another becoming brothers,ya that Ft Drum is a real waste of time,,,,,,, Indian River High School didn't do to bad with 3/4 Army Kids on their Roster

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Anyone else think that this Fort Drum experiment needs to end? I don't think it helps us at all. Do any other teams do anything like this?

There are more important things than football.

 

[Stern]

All I know is when they show the clips at the Dome during breaks in the game and they show the drill sergeants yelling at the kids as they get off the bus...the kids are laughing and giggling the whole time. They don't take it seriously to me. With this coaching staff I don't know if they didn't do the trip and the kids would get any words of wisdom from this staff. But I don't see the need for the trip

 

[Stern]

There are more important things than football.

True. But fans pay to watch a football team play football. They don't care at the end of the day if these football players have a good field trip once a year to play GI Joe for a week or so.

 

[CuseTroop]

That's what the fans pay to see. Fans don't care about grade point averages, or building high character individuals for post college, or going to Fort Drum and showing respect to soldiers and living like GI Joe for a week. It's all about football and results. And nobody cares about "life "on a September or October Saturday at Noon when its kickoff time. Just the cold hard reality of it!

Then maybe those fans should head over to The Ralph on Sunday's. Watch guys that play football for a career.

I think there are a few fans that care about their team building high character individuals, and showing respect to soldiers

 

[Stern]

Then maybe those fans should head over to The Ralph on Sunday's. Watch guys that play football for a career.

I think there are a few fans that care about their team building high character individuals, and showing respect to soldiers

Agree to disagree. People just want to watch a winning football team. Nobody cares about the other stuff at the end of the day. I have never heard on a post game call in show say or a journalist in the Post Standard write something to effect of..."hey SU lost 28-7, bu AJ Long got a 100 on his math test boy I am really proud of him for that. SU football is producing some fine individuals. "

I'm just saying in reality, nobody cares about the other stuff. It's all and only about football at the end of the day

 

[BlackKnight76]

Glad we've figured out the problem with the program.

 

[TheCusian]

Agree to disagree. People just want to watch a winning football team. Nobody cares about the other stuff at the end of the day. I have never heard on a post game call in show say or a journalist in the Post Standard write something to effect of..."hey SU lost 28-7, bu AJ Long got a 100 on his math test boy I am really proud of him for that. SU football is producing some fine individuals. " I'm just saying in reality, nobody cares about the other stuff. It's all and only about football at the end of the day

That's BS. Might be true for some fans - but I think if that's all you see you are missing out on a huge chunk of what makes college sports so great. I love the stories about how the kids mature, or how they came from nothing to grab a college education, or how they think of themselves as brothers on and off the field.

Shafer rightly sees it as a chance to use football as a way of becoming a man, good citizen, successful, etc. Winning will always be the most important metric for fans... But I'm glad that even in a season like this one - that perspective on life is learned.

If my son was going to play college football, I'd be looking for an environment that will help him become a better, stronger person. I'd be proud of him with a 3-9 record or 12-0 - as long as he was growing.

 

[kuethstheman]

If you lose, everything you did is wrong.

 

[SUfanNC]

If you lose, everything you did is wrong.

This a real statement? :noidea: