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Kevin Johnson Jr. wasn't any slouch either. And he was recruited as a QB and changed over.Jim Turner was super fast in the forgotten fast guy era
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Kevin Johnson Jr. wasn't any slouch either. And he was recruited as a QB and changed over.Jim Turner was super fast in the forgotten fast guy era
Reading about Jason Hart's workouts was cool. He really was maniacal about getting better. He also dedicated himself in the weight room in a way that was unusual in the JB era.I’m all for speed. No doubt it makes a huge difference.
But if I’m HCFB, I’m looking for guys who have the “it” factor. I know we have discussed the intangible nature of that on this board ad nauseam. Still, I don’t see how it can be discounted.
And I’m looking for guys who will simply outwork other guys. Let’s face it, all these guys have god-given talent. But at the high college level, and even more so in the Pros, players succeed because they just put in more quality work and preparation.
It’s not football, I know, but I always think of Jason Hart in basketball. That kid was a very good SU player. But we’ve had lots of good players, many better PGs than Hart. But he gets to the NBA and just committed himself to outwork, and out-train everybody. He parlayed that ethic into a 10-year journeyman pro career. He’s basically the model for commitment to competing.
Anyway, good stuff on the speed analysis. I love the success FB has had.
Wonderful post thanks for the work. Look forward to hearing more. Great stuff.a faster football team.
When I began doing Evaluations of each Offered Player as we moved into the Fran Brown era I noticed that there was a definite increase in the number of skill position players who ran 4.5’s or below into 4.4’s and the special players who could run elite speed into the 4.3’s.
I wanted to show the board what I believe Fran Brown has in mind with his new football program as far as speed goes. The faster the better at ANY position, but especially at the skill positions of WR, DB, RB, TE, and QB.
I hope this shows what Fran has begun to do at Syracuse getting ALL players at a decent speed but some others are Fast, Very Fast and Elite and this is great for Syracuse football.
The initial list is just the first group coming in with this class and transfers, but he’s begun to add speed to the team. When you are running a 4.39 or a 4.4 you are very, very fast. A WR or RB with that kind of speed and great hands is going to catch more balls and outrun any DB for scores. I’ve been there, and it’s good to be fast - along with Floyd we were the fastest on the team. We both ran the same 9.7 100 yard dash back in the day.
I started with the new commits for 2024 and will update new players as we go through the spring and summer. I think it would be good if I kept a list of skill players so we may see the addition of speed as we move towards this football season and then add to it the next group in December.
Please add any comments you’d like. I hope I can do this for the entire team with the DL’s and OL’s added. Sometimes it is asking a lot to get a 40 time on an OL unless his speed is unique to his position and that goes for DL’s and LB’s too. The average time, height and weight for a NFL LB today is 6’2” 245, 4.5+.
The origin of timing football players for 40 yards comes from the average distance of a punt and the time it takes to reach that distance. Punts average around 40 yards in distance from the line of scrimmage, and the hang-time (time of flight) averages approximately 4.5 seconds; therefore, if a player can run 40 yards in 4.5 seconds, they will be able to leave the line of scrimmage when a punt is kicked, and reach the point where the ball comes down just as it arrives.
40 Times for all QB’s, WR’s, DB’s, RB’s for 2024/ *FAST, **VERY FAST, ***ELITE
December Signees (19)
DB Marcellus Barnes Elizabeth HS, Elizabeth, NJ – (4.39 40)***
DL Caden Brown
LB Jayden Brown
LB Fatim Diggs
DL KingJoseph Edwards
OL Willie Goodacre
DB Ta’Ron Haile Millville HS, Millville, NJ – (4.63 40)*
RB Jaden Hart, Michigan City, IN – (4.5 40)*
WR Jaylan Hornsby, Winslow Township HS, Atco, NJ – (4.4 40)**
DL Jahide Lesaine Jr
DB Braheem Long, Camden HS, Camden, NJ – (4.99 40)
OL Noah Rosahac
WR Emanuel Ross, Red Bank, HS, Red Bank, NJ – (4.7 40)*
WR Ja'Meer Thomas, Bennet HS, Buffalo, NY – (4.4 40)**
TE Jamie Tremble – (4.5 40)*
TE Elijah Washington
DL Maraad Watson
QB Jakhari Williams - (4.7 40)*
RB Yasin Willis, Montvale HS, Montvale, NJ – (4.4 40)**
February Signees (4)
OL Travis Brown-Miller
WR Malachi James, Burlington HS, Burlinton, NJ – (4.39 40)***
DB Ibn McDaniels, Elizabeth, HS Elizabeth, NJ – (4.4 40)**
OL Xavier Miles
Transfers (12)
DB Duce Chestnut [LSU], Transfer – (4.5 40)*
DL Fadil Diggs [Texas A&M]
DB Devin Grant [UBuffalo] Transfer – (4.65 40)*
DL Isaiah Hastings [Alabama}
WR Zeed Haynes [Georgia] Transfer – (4.39 40) ***
LB James Heard [WVU]
QB Kyle McCord {Ohio St]
OL Josh Miller [Georgia]
WR Jackson Meeks [Georgia] Transfer – (4.59 40)*
DL Michael Nwokocha [JUCO]
OL Da’Metrius Weatherspoon [Howard]
DL Dion Wilson [New Mex St]
TIMES PER ABOVE:
July 2024 Enrollees
Emanuel Ross - WR (4.7 40)*
Red Bank, NJ - Red Bank Catholic HS
Jaylan Hornsby - WR (4.4 40)**
Atco, NJ - Winslow Township HS
Willie Goodacre - OT
Denton, TX - Guyer HS
Jamie Tremble - TE (4.5 40)*
Norcross, GA - Wesleyan School
Xavier Miles - OL/DL
Jersey City, NJ - St. Peter’s Prep
Jayden Brown - LB (4.5)*
Ramsey, NJ - Don Bosco Prep
Elijah Washington - TE
Norfolk, VA - Lake Taylor HS
Ja’Meer Thomas - WR ( 4.4 40)**
Buffalo, NY - Bennett High School
Malachi James - ATH (4.39 40)***
Burlington, NJ - Burlington City High School
Ibn McDaniels - DB (4.4 40)**
Elizabeth, NJ - Elizabeth High School
I hope Fran keeps getting faster and better players as he has started to do quickly so Syracuse can become one of the best teams in the country.
Nassib to Chewie in the left corner of the end zone to best Wake Forest. Diving catch if I remember correctly. Chewie was pretty good.Speed is cool but we've had speed before. Van Chew ran a 4.3/4.4 and not short at 6'1 but had the physical frame of a stickman. I don't think FB is bringing in VCs. I'm just saying, speed's cool, but you need speed and size. Smarts helps too
Was that the opener in 2011?Nassib to Chewie in the left corner of the end zone to best Wake Forest. Diving catch if I remember correctly. Chewie was pretty good.
Sounds right.Was that the opener in 2011?