Future of College Sports

[FloridaCuse]

 

[FloridaCuse]

President Trump to convene panel focused on future of college sports: Sources

The roundtable, scheduled for March 6, includes an invite list with dozens of important figures and sports celebrities.

www.nytimes.com

 

[FloridaCuse]

 

[Newhouser]

Saban - the guy who wanted to ban the hurry up because he couldn't stop it and then was opposed to paying players because his cheating advantage would be erased.

This country has to learn that just because someone is on ESPN doesn't make them smarter than anyone else.

This will settle itself out eventually - we do not need any government intervention.

 

[orangefog]

I hope all those dudes like McDonald’s.

 

[Rufus_13th]

Nick Saban pours water on President Trump's college sports panel

Nick Saban was being talked up as the likely head of President Donald Trump’s proposed college sports commission, but now the former Alabama head coach wonders

www.si.com

What's changed? lol

 

[orange79]

To everyone posting or thinking of posting in this thread:

 

[javadoc]

Saban - the guy who wanted to ban the hurry up because he couldn't stop it and then was opposed to paying players because his cheating advantage would be erased.

This country has to learn that just because someone is on ESPN doesn't make them smarter than anyone else.

This will settle itself out eventually - we do not need any government intervention.

"settle itself out eventually" = small-market teams are squeezed out or into true irrelevance.

We are a small-market team.

Bring on the government intervention.

 

[SURules]

"settle itself out eventually" = small-market teams are squeezed out or into true irrelevance.

We are a small-market team.

Bring on the government intervention.

This was inevitable

 

[Hoo's That]

So happy to see Donald Trump involved. This will finally be fixed. ( Can anybody train me on how to use the sarcasm font?)

Easy. Highlight the text you want to convert. Click on the 3 dots. Click on the little triangle next to the A. Click on Courier New. Et voila!

 

[HRE Otto IV]

So if the Supreme Court ruled against a single TV contract, how exactly do they think going back to a single contract is ok?

If it did happen though it would fix a lot of things. Conferences in FB would no longer be needed, so we can go back to regionals in everything else. If TV $ was paid out based on what network you played on, the big programs would be better off too. The programs that would lose the most are the mid and lower tier B1G/SEC schools.

 

[NKR1978]

So if the Supreme Court ruled against a single TV contract, how exactly do they think going back to a single contract is ok?

If it did happen though it would fix a lot of things. Conferences in FB would no longer be needed, so we can go back to regionals in everything else. If TV $ was paid out based on what network you played on, the big programs would be better off too. The programs that would lose the most are the mid and lower tier B1G/SEC schools.

I think if Congress were to act it would legally overturn that Supreme Court precedent. This would turn the NCAA into something more akin to a professional league with what I assume would be an antitrust exemption.

 

[FloridaCuse]

Easy. Highlight the text you want to convert. Click on the 3 dots. Click on the little triangle next to the A. Click on Courier New. Et voila!

and what says that Courier New is sarcasm font? I woudn't have known.

Besides I thought it was only available on the "pay side".

 

[richmondcuse03]

I think if Congress were to act it would legally overturn that Supreme Court precedent. This would turn the NCAA into something more akin to a professional league with what I assume would be an antitrust exemption.

there's only one actual solution -- the players are employees and you have a CBA.

Saban is trying to claim you can do this without that step. You can't. Carve out football and basketball, go back to regional rivalries for everything else. If the 10-15 richest schools don't want to do that, they can go play each other in a small conference that won't matter. It's time that the majority push for what's right and stop this nonsense. The other 10-15 can either get in line and realize they have to sacrifice a little to do what's best for the sport or they can go play in their own little boring sandbox.

“I don’t think it’s in the best interest of the players to necessarily be employees,” he said. “And I think authentic name, image, and likeness is good for players, but I don’t think pay-for-play is necessarily what we want.”

 

[HRE Otto IV]

there's only one actual solution -- the players are employees and you have a CBA.

Saban is trying to claim you can do this without that step. You can't. Carve out football and basketball, go back to regional rivalries for everything else. If the 10-15 richest schools don't want to do that, they can go play each other in a small conference that won't matter. It's time that the majority push for what's right and stop this nonsense. The other 10-15 can either get in line and realize they have to sacrifice a little to do what's best for the sport or they can go play in their own little boring sandbox.

“I don’t think it’s in the best interest of the players to necessarily be employees,” he said. “And I think authentic name, image, and likeness is good for players, but I don’t think pay-for-play is necessarily what we want.”

That is good for football but hurts Olympic sports and kills off the NCAA Tournament. The Top 100 or so BBall programs would split from the rest of D1. Which means an tournament of 48 and no Cinderellas.

 

[richmondcuse03]

That is good for football but hurts Olympic sports and kills off the NCAA Tournament. The Top 100 or so BBall programs would split from the rest of D1. Which means an tournament of 48 and no Cinderellas.

Olympic sports are going to get hurt one way or another. I'd argue letting them play regionally and cutting costs is the only way you're going to preserve a lot of them.

 

[cusefan88]

Olympic sports are going to get hurt one way or another. I'd argue letting them play regionally and cutting costs is the only way you're going to preserve a lot of them.

Non-revenue sports taking long plane trips is insanity.

 

[FloridaCuse]

Can Trump fix college sports? Can't sell plan if SEC, Big Ten don't want to hear it

President Trump's roundtable on college sports sounds like a great idea. You can’t sell a plan to fix what’s broken if someone doesn’t want to hear it.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Hoo's That]

Non-revenue sports taking long plane trips is insanity.

Right now, they Olympic sports teams "double up" when playing Stanford and Cal. For example, Stanford's WLax team is playing UVa today and Virginia Tech on Tuesday. Even basketball plays that way.

 

[cusefan88]

Right now, they Olympic sports teams "double up" when playing Stanford and Cal. For example, Stanford's WLax team is playing UVa today and Virginia Tech on Tuesday. Even basketball plays that way.

Right. It's the only sensible way to do things and it just shouldn't be.

 

[Sudano]

First and foremost everyone involved (administrators, state educational boards, athletic depts, players...) need to determine what they want this new version of football to be.
Are the players students in any capacity, seeking to be educated beyond the field, with educational requirements and duties? Because then the legal guardrails would be educational laws.
Or is it professional with unions, and CRBs, and a company structure. Then it will fall under corporate legal structure. Without a legal structure it's an uncontrollable entity without form or function. No rules, laws, administration. Nothing to inform it's existence. It can't literally be both because it's inherently contradictory.

 

[Hoo's That]

Right. It's the only sensible way to do things and it just shouldn't be.

I think everyone outside the B1G and SEC would agree. As it was with the distances involved, the Pac-8/10/12 was doing the 2-fer basketball weekends for a very long time. That bus trip between Seattle and Pullman must have been a real bummer.

 

[OrangeAl]

I realize that sports money drives things differently, but aren't college drama departments, music departments and media departments designed to be run by and for legitimate students?
Once there's a disconnect between athletics and academics the whole concept of collegiate sports becomes a farce.
Wait, it's already become a farce!

 

[orangecuse]

there's only one actual solution -- the players are employees and you have a CBA.

Saban is trying to claim you can do this without that step. You can't. Carve out football and basketball, go back to regional rivalries for everything else. If the 10-15 richest schools don't want to do that, they can go play each other in a small conference that won't matter. It's time that the majority push for what's right and stop this nonsense. The other 10-15 can either get in line and realize they have to sacrifice a little to do what's best for the sport or they can go play in their own little boring sandbox.

“I don’t think it’s in the best interest of the players to necessarily be employees,” he said. “And I think authentic name, image, and likeness is good for players, but I don’t think pay-for-play is necessarily what we want.”

 

[Sudano]

there's only one actual solution -- the players are employees and you have a CBA.

Saban is trying to claim you can do this without that step. You can't. Carve out football and basketball, go back to regional rivalries for everything else. If the 10-15 richest schools don't want to do that, they can go play each other in a small conference that won't matter. It's time that the majority push for what's right and stop this nonsense. The other 10-15 can either get in line and realize they have to sacrifice a little to do what's best for the sport or they can go play in their own little boring sandbox.

“I don’t think it’s in the best interest of the players to necessarily be employees,” he said. “And I think authentic name, image, and likeness is good for players, but I don’t think pay-for-play is necessarily what we want.”

Then no education, no eligibility issues, no classes, any adult can be an employee, no 4 yr eligibility limits, having older male adults 25+, 30+ men as player/employees almost eliminating teenagers to be able to compete. NFL competing for players because of the pay competition. University football may pay more for certain secondary players and positions? Universities owning non 403B companies, or setting up corporate structure owned by universities and run by educators? Players playing for 'University' teams for 10+yrs.
Strange contradiction of non-students playing for University of Texas?! Do rich NIL contributors end? or now buy stock in this new corporate structure for ROI or can you donate to a profit based corporation?