Class of 2020 G Kadary Richmond (NY/Brewster Academy) Portal to St Johns

[jdubs30]

clearly Red didn’t have enough $$$$ to spend

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

Lots of red flags w/Kadary would have been awesome though.

Also could have blown up in our face.

 

[two3zone]

Lots of red flags w/Kadary would have been awesome though.

Also could have blown up in our face.

What red flags? Dude has played 4 years now and other than a campus party what has he done?

 

[RedtheGOB]

It's the second year in a row where we're losing more than that's leaving.

As it stands now, this year is all on Freeman's back. I'm all about in bringing older portal players in but not one of these guys are our will be impact players.

Last year I give a complete pass because it was the first year but this is his second portal cycle and it's arguably more lackluster than last and these names/stats/previous conferences don't give me much hope.

Guess we'll see. It's not apples to apples year to year. Last year we had no high school recruits, this year even with only 2 commits we're at at #13 in the country, not the ACC the #13 in the whole league.

Last year we ended up around top 25 in the portal rankings. About #5 in the ACC. I'll be interested to see where we end up this year.

Sure a proven PG would've been nice but we also already have a handful of guards. I agree on Freeman.

I for one will just be happy if we can keep guys healthy, I really don't want another what if this person or that person didn't get hurt season.

 

[kingtidge]

Let’s see what our coaches had teed up in the on-deck circle.

Is there really anyone on-deck??

 

[orangepassion]

I'd be done with the program if we considered it

That's enough of a reason to bring him in

 

[FrancoPizza]

Can’t turn down the money he got. Pretty simple

Problem is we keep saying this or finding other reasons. At some point the staff needs to own it that they’re not selling and closing.

 

[RedtheGOB]

Is there really anyone on-deck??

I doubt anyone that we can predict. There's still what 2-3 scholarships left so I'm sure we'll fill out the roster. I expect whoever we hear about it'll be a done deal by the time we hear about it. I wouldn't expect fireworks either, just picking up solid players. Maybe another shooter or just a tough defender.

 

[FrancoPizza]

clearly Red didn’t have enough $$$$ to spend

We have to stop labeling NIL as a skill set that the coaching staff is not accountable for cultivating. Expectations need to be raised if this program wants to meet the “standard” that Wildhack has put in writing.

 

[Scotch]

I doubt anyone that we can predict. There's still what 2-3 scholarships left so I'm sure we'll fill out the roster. I expect whoever we hear about it'll be a done deal by the time we hear about it. I wouldn't expect fireworks either, just picking up solid players. Maybe another shooter or just a tough defender.

To me it feels like this approach is going to lead to a really easy-to-root for roster that ends up on the bubble or in the NIT. There is just not enough difference-making talent right now to be a top 25 team.

 

[albanycuse]

People talking about money have no clue how much he got lol.

 

[capeorange]

What red flags? Dude has played 4 years now and other than a campus party what has he done?

I think he meant Red Storm...

 

[dasher]

To me it feels like this approach is going to lead to a really easy-to-root for roster that ends up on the bubble or in the NIT. There is just not enough difference-making talent right now to be a top 25 team.

One thing that I wouldn't under estimate is that we will be older. We were much too young this past year. Along with our other issues. We just brought in three older guys. In the age of the ridiculous covid year that put us behind the 8 ball.

 

[two3zone]

People talking about money have no clue how much he got lol.

Zero knowledge, but I'm guessing 1.25-1.5 million.

 

[albanycuse]

Zero knowledge, but I'm guessing 1.25-1.5 million.

Money is the first thing people point too. Kadary had a bad taste in his mouth when it came to Syracuse and how he felt he was treated. It was probably never going to happen anyway. And the level of interest he he had to come back here was probably less than 10% imo.

 

[two3zone]

Money is the first thing people point too. Kadary had a bad taste in his mouth when it came to Syracuse and how he felt he was treated. It was probably never going to happen anyway. And the level of interest he he had to come back here was probably less than 10% imo

A lot has changed in 4 years. I'm sure the sour taste didn't help, St Johns is closer to home, playing for a team being designed to win, and say what you will about Rick, Hall of Fame coach. Lots of reasons not to come, but Eddie Lampkin shouldn't be our prize portal hit.

 

[baggerbob]

It's the second year in a row where we're losing more than that's leaving.

As it stands now, this year is all on Freeman's back. I'm all about in bringing older portal players in but not one of these guys are our will be impact players.

Last year I give a complete pass because it was the first year but this is his second portal cycle and it's arguably more lackluster than last and these names/stats/previous conferences don't give me much hope.

Last year you had 3 starters who had no idea what defense was. You also had a huge number of players who were allergic to rebounding.
The only real rebounder we had was Brown, and you couldn't compare him to a DC, Rony, Rosie, or Melo.

 

[dasher]

Money is the first thing people point too. Kadary had a bad taste in his mouth when it came to Syracuse and how he felt he was treated. It was probably never going to happen anyway. And the level of interest he he had to come back here was probably less than 10% imo.

But, he called us. And he had three phone calls with us. There were things we couldn't match. We couldn't match the dough. We also don't have a Hall of Fame coach. We also don't have NYC. But, he did call us.

 

[two3zone]

Last year you had 3 starters who had no idea what defense was. You also had a huge number of players who were allergic to rebounding.
The only real rebounder we had was Brown, and you couldn't compare him to a DC, Rony, Rosie, or Melo.

And we kept two of those starters!!!! Lol.

 

[skeeter223]

Zero knowledge, but I'm guessing 1.25-1.5 million.

Wonder what that kind of money for one player does for overall team morale?

 

[two3zone]

Wonder what that kind of money for one player does for overall team morale?

Winning fixes a lot.

 

[RF2044]

Well, now that the Kadary fever dream has broken, what's the state of the state?

Kadary would have been a high-profile "get," had he come here. We have a big need at the 1, he's the top rated PG in the portal. Hammer meets nail. But now that he's St. John's bound:

• Carlos becomes a big determinant of next year's team ceiling
• Hope Westry is [1] healthy, [2] can quickly shake off any ring rust, and [3] can spell the point, a la Copeland
• Also hope we add another wing shooter, to bolster what we already have
• I caveat the previous bullet by indicating that I expect the coaches to primarily stand pat, and roll with JJ / Carlos / Westry / Moore as the backcourt

 

[kingtidge]

But, he called us. And he had three phone calls with us. There were things we couldn't match. We couldn't match the dough. We also don't have a Hall of Fame coach. We also don't have NYC. But, he did call us.

What do we have to spend and who can it get us are the questions.

 

[dasher]

What do we have to spend and who can it get us are the questions.

No idea. But just guessing, they guys we got so far.

 

[Orangefan1]

Latest update from the Johnnies board is that one guy says Kadary is a done deal and he will announce tomorrow (now today) for St John’s, Another has heard about Illinois getting involved and is worried about them.

Absolutely no one has heard about Syracuse getting involved. They are totally clueless on our involvement.

An Illini board says Kadary is in play for them.

I guess we will know a lot more by the end of today.

clearly Red didn’t have enough $$$$ to spend

That isn’t a good sign that we can’t beat out St John’s for NIL