Class of 2022 G Kobe Magee (PA) Portal to FSU

[Cusefan0307]

Umm, no. For Michigan Donaldson came from Auburn, Burnett from Bama, and Gayle from Ohio State. And Golden played T Texas Tech before he went to Florida Atlantic. And for Lville Hepburn frm Wisconsin, Hadley frm Colorado, and Waterman from BYU.

I see you conveniently left out Wolf, Edwards, Smith, Hadley, and Scott.

 

[Cappy3]

I see you conveniently left out Wolf, Edwards, Smith, Hadley, and Scott.

Umm not Hadley (see above).Give ya Wolf, Edwards and Scott.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Umm not Hadley (see above).Give ya Wolf, Edwards and Scott.

He started at Northeastern. Just like the logic you used about Goldin.

 

[Cappy3]

He started at Northeastern. Just like the logic you used about Goldin.

My point is guys who played at P5 schools, whether it was their 1st, 2nd, or 3rd stop. Guys good enough for P5 schools I’m fine with.

 

[CardiacCuse]

this years roster had some players that couldnt make the leap...but doesnt mean there arent lower level players who can

staff just picked a bunch of duds

whereever the players come from they gotta be good...low major high major abroad

mcleod cam from FSU (high major) and he was poor

i want high major players but most of all I want GOOD players...and they can be found ANYWHERE

 

[Cusefan0307]

My point is guys who played at P5 schools, whether it was their 1st, 2nd, or 3rd stop. Guys good enough for P5 schools I’m fine with.

Ok, but again there’s mid major players starting on a ton of teams left. Kentucky is another example. Their starting center is literally from the same school as Magee.

 

[Cappy3]

Ok, but again there’s mid major players starting on a ton of teams left. Kentucky is another example. Their starting center is literally from the same school as Magee.

Sure, there are occasional low major guys who can play. But loading up on that level of transfer won’t turn out good. You need more experienced P5 level guys. Not to mention that it’s easier to evaluate a guys true potential if he played at the level he will be asked to play at.

 

[CardiacCuse]

Sure, there are occasional low major guys who can play. But loading up on that level of transfer won’t turn out good. You need more experienced P5 level guys. Not to mention that it’s easier to evaluate a guys true potential if he played at the level he will be asked to play at.

i think youre on to something: red is more likely to pick better players from p4 teams

but you're wrong that there isnt a significant amount of talent outside of the p4 level...there is.

at smaller schools and abroad...it really comes down to picking good players (and convincing them to come)

ever heard of Dalton Knecht? he played at northern colorado and northeastern junior college...according to you he shouldnt he even have been an option for cuse??

 

[pearl31]

I would say I'm impressed with Clayton on Florida, the best player in this game, but unfortunately he tesnsferred from Iona so he doesn't really count

 

[Cusefan0307]

Sure, there are occasional low major guys who can play. But loading up on that level of transfer won’t turn out good. You need more experienced P5 level guys. Not to mention that it’s easier to evaluate a guys true potential if he played at the level he will be asked to play at.

I just counted 6 starting on 3 teams still left. You want to pass on a 44% 3 point shooter with interest from 7 other tournament teams because he played in a crappy conference when shooting is our biggest weakness on offense.

 

[Cappy3]

this years roster had some players that couldnt make the leap...but doesnt mean there arent lower level players who can

staff just picked a bunch of duds

whereever the players come from they gotta be good...low major high major abroad

mcleod cam from FSU (high major) and he was poor

i want high major players but most of all I want GOOD players...and they can be found ANYWHERE

Don’t we all. But the risk of misevaluating guys is greater the lower the level they played at. Davis averaged 17, Taylor 14.5, and Carlos 10, 6.3 assists and two time league all defensive team. Putting up nice stats at that level really doesn’t prove much.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Don’t we all. But the risk of misevaluating guys is greater the lower the level they played at. Davis averaged 17, Taylor 14.5, and Carlos 10, 6.3 assists and two time league all defensive team. Putting up nice stats at that level really doesn’t prove much.

There’s a clear difference. None shot 44% from 3. And none had great efficiency metrics or had the same interest level.

 

[Cappy3]

I just counted 6 starting on 3 teams still left. You want to pass on a 44% 3 point shooter with interest from 7 other tournament teams because he played in a crappy conference when shooting is our biggest weakness on offense.

If he’s the only guy we take from that level, fine. But 44% in a crappy conference does necessarily translate to success in a P5 league. It may, but I would prefer guys who had success at the level they’re gonna be asked to play at.

 

[CardiacCuse]

Don’t we all. But the risk of misevaluating guys is greater the lower the level they played at. Davis averaged 17, Taylor 14.5, and Carlos 10, 6.3 assists and two time league all defensive team. Putting up nice stats at that level really doesn’t prove much.

the risk isnt greater whne you have an eye for talent

this isnt really about the level of players: its about the coaches inability to assess talent

lets get real

 

[littlereg]

Don’t we all. But the risk of misevaluating guys is greater the lower the level they played at. Davis averaged 17, Taylor 14.5, and Carlos 10, 6.3 assists and two time league all defensive team. Putting up nice stats at that level really doesn’t prove much.

And again, if you have good scouting and coaches you will find the ones worth taking, not the ones with gsrbage offer list Davis, Taylor, Carlos. compare the schools they had interest from and compare it to Magee, or compared it to Kobe brea for Kentucky. While Dayton is a bigger/better program than Drexel, brea had offers from basically every single blue blood. Alijah Martin from Florida, FA transfer had offers from Michigan, Alabama, Arkansas. I won’t even use Lanier because he’s been mention a million times. ALL the CONTEXT matters.

 

[CardiacCuse]

And again, if you have good scouting and coaches you will find the ones worth taking, not the ones with gsrbage offer list Davis, Taylor, Carlos. compare the schools they had interest from and compare it to Magee, or compared it to Kobe brea for Kentucky. While Dayton is a bigger/better program than Drexel, brea had offers from basically every single mid major. Alijah Martin from Florida, FA transfer had offers from Michigan, Alabama, Arkansas. I won’t even use Lanier because he’s been mention a million times. ALL the CONTEXT matters.

lets not forget that the interest has to be mutual

syracuse has been ranked for 10 weeks total the last 10 years...not the easiest sell to recruits

 

[cliftonparksufan]

lets not forget that the interest has to be mutual

syracuse has been ranked for 10 weeks total the last 10 years...not the easiest sell to recruits

99% true. However, Cuse can offer playing time on a really big stage. Especially next year with Melo and La La in the house.

 

[littlereg]

lets not forget that the interest has to be mutual

syracuse has been ranked for 10 weeks total the last 10 years...not the easiest sell to recruits

There’s so many perspectives and contextual layers that people leave out in these arguments

 

[OptimusOtto]

We are in a lot better place than we were at this time last year. I don't know how it will all shake out. No one does. But Kline has been on the portal for months. Last year, we started on the portal, after it had started. We didn't have money and even if we did, we weren't prepared for it.

Based on pedigree and everything I've read on him, I'm extremely excited for Kline. Not optimistic the staff will maximize the team but confident we'll have a much more cohesive group.

 

[orangefog]

Based on pedigree and everything I've read on him, I'm extremely excited for Kline. Not optimistic the staff will maximize the team but confident we'll have a much more cohesive group.

I remember watching Alex interviewing TOP players when he was in his middle teens. This kid is dialed in on top talent. I am not sure about his talent evaluation, but he is part of the basketball community where he can talk to whomever he wants to. Hopefully that results in getting our foot in the door with top talent.

 

[SanDiegoCuse]

 

[Orangezoo]

Well that’s a great start- quality target- no mention of us on his visits.

 

[hoopsupstate]

Hopefully he visits on the weekend.

 

[pwong]

Hopefully he visits on the weekend.

Visiting Wake SH FSU first

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

I remember watching Alex interviewing TOP players when he was in his middle teens. This kid is dialed in on top talent. I am not sure about his talent evaluation, but he is part of the basketball community where he can talk to whomever he wants to. Hopefully that results in getting our foot in the door with top talent.

Metrics are the beginning for him.