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yep except its not the no give part, it the too much squishy spongy too much "give" that tranfers all the forces to the knee ligaments as I've noted elsewhere.Packers Defender Rips NFL After Teammate Rashan Gary Tears ACL - Sports Illustrated
The linebacker blamed artificial turf playing fields for recent injuries.
Field turf was pitched as being safer than the old artificial turf at least partly because the "squishy" pellets were supposed to absorb impact. Now it seems the problem is that the rubber pellets are rebounding those forces back up into the player's bodies and one reason grass remains safer is that you get the give but not the same rebound. Am I understanding that correctly?
exactly, its a transfer of forces where they shouldn't be imo, especially with deceleration and movement pivots. Its great (the squishyness) for impact dispersal lessening tackle related injuries like clavicle fractures, a/c shoulder joint seperations, and concussions but the ACL impacts are ridiculous. Answer is go back to the firm turf on top they used to have but make the underneath layers larger and softer if that's possible.
Anyone with knowledge want to explain this? Is this data flawed somehow?
The hard part is finding something that absorbs some impact without rebounding like rubber and can still return to its original shape. Almost like some sort of firm memory foam.
but the study was also done with the NFLPA as well who have an interest in player safety as well..
Yes, when we weren’t busy playing dodgeball with fully inflated basketballs.
That may not be a good comparison because they may practice and play on a different surface than our guys when not in the Dome. There is likely a repetitve trauma that takes place and adds up over time with the forces Cuseregular was describing. I wonder how often we practice outdoors on grass versus inside the practice facility.
I think so. Wearing down could be part of it along with simpy the added forces the connective tissues have to deal with when force it rebounded back into the legs versus absorbed into the surface like natural turf. It would better explain the non contact stuff we've seen.
Yeah. So many places have indoor facilities. I would think their surfaces would be the same as ours. Then, how much does weather differences affect how much one school practices indoors versus outdoors compared to another? Do schools in arid places like Arizona have natural outdoor surfaces to practice on?
If the injuries are due to repetitive playing on artificial turf, could the trouble be starting in high school? Many high schools have converted to artificial turf. Could a player actually start the damage starting with modified and continuing through varsity football. Then the catastrophic injury occurs in college.
I don't have a position on this issue, but it is weird that someone posted a link to relevant data and nobody cares to comment on it.
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This is what I was hoping would happen.Mainly because there is too much data that counters what one study says…
Incidence of Knee Injuries on Artificial Turf Versus Natural Grass in National Collegiate Athletic Association American Football: 2004-2005 Through 2013-2014 Seasons - PubMed
Artificial turf is an important risk factor for specific knee ligament injuries in NCAA football. Injury rates for PCL tears were significantly increased during competitions played on artificial turf as compared with natural grass. Lower NCAA divisions (II and III) also showed higher rates of...
Is the Turf Worth it? - Sports Medicine Research
In a nationally representative sample, ACL injuries in high school football and soccer players were more likely to occur on artificial playing surfaces compared to natural playing surfaces.
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Sure, it could start earlier and likely does with the way artificial surfaces have filtered down.
