Follow up...how far down the list before McNabb shows up? Top 20? 30? 50? lower?
Follow up...how far down the list before McNabb shows up? Top 20? 30? 50? lower?
FWIW, he's 22nd all-time in TDs and 17th all-time in yardage.
Hey Joe, they weren't a one hit wonder the first 3 because they had the greatest qb leading them. Name me a pro bowler on offense for those?Uh the broncos were not a one hit wonder...like that schlub marinos phins...
Is this john Elway?
I am a huge Bronco Fan, maybe it was the colors! Regardless, my favorite player of all time in football is John Elway. But in reality, he wasn't the best QB ever, IMO. I believe he was the best over achiever ever...especially many of the teams he took to the playoffs and superbowls that hd no business being there!
Eli Manning
Phil Simms
Jeff Hostetler
Kerry Collins
*Others receiving votes
I see what you did there
Jim Kelly
Jack Kemp
Doug Flutie
Joe ferguson
Dennis Shaw
I see what you did there
Jim Kelly
Jack Kemp
Doug Flutie
Joe ferguson
Dennis Shaw
What, Norm Snead didn't make the list!
I'll put Elway in the top 10...barely. But just isnt a top 5er to me...
Sammy winder. He also had the 3 amigos and a really good group on d (except against Montana who shredded them )Hey Joe, they weren't a one hit wonder the first 3 because they had the greatest qb leading them. Name me a pro bowler on offense for those?
Use whatever metrics you choose. Maybe you value team success more than personal stats, or vice versa. No ties - that's boring.
Mine:
1. John Elway
2. Joe Montana
3. Tom Brady
4. Peyton Manning
5. Johnny Unitas
Just on the cusp: Dan Marino, Brett Favre, Roger Staubach
Eli Manning
Phil Simms
Jeff Hostetler
Kerry Collins
*Others receiving votes
Somewhere in the top 5 - Sonny Jergensen
I am a huge Bronco Fan, maybe it was the colors! Regardless, my favorite player of all time in football is John Elway. But in reality, he wasn't the best QB ever, IMO. I believe he was the best over achiever ever...especially many of the teams he took to the playoffs and superbowls that hd no business being there!
It's late in the 4th quarter, you are down by a TD, on the road, in miserable winter weather conditions. Momentum is totally against you as the winds of Lake Erie play havoc on the kick off and you start at your own 2 yard line. You have but 1 TO left as you stroll on the field, in the heart of the dog pound, with Milk Bones bouncing of your team as they huddle up at the back of the end zone, and you look around and see players like Sammy Winder, Mark Jackson, Steve Watson and Steve Sewell looking back at you (Not what I call top tier talent) and the QB calmy says, "OK guys, we got them right where we want them!", I ask you again, how many guys on that list of yours would do what this guy did, some 47 times, with mostly mediocre teams, and you can't see him as a top 10 QB?
I said I WOULD put him in the top 10. By barely I meant probably 9 or 10.
Well Montana also won with Freddie Solomon, Russ Francis, Dwight Clark, Jim ring, Wendell Alexis, etc. jerry rice skews the debate. Other than him, Montana and elway had nice players. Just because u make a pb is irrelevant. You don't get to all those Super Bowls without a cast.Nice, u named one of only 2 skill position players he had on o, any of those 3 SB years. Not even an uno of the three amigos ever made the pro bowl
Wow, making a pro bowl and having that quality of player on your team is irrelevant to a qb's success? And I suppose Bill Walsh's system was irrelevant as well? One time Montana had 9 pro bowlers on offense, that's a little more than "nice players". No need to continue this debate...