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GS had a good Game

We might have lost that game…and it sucks.

However, I think we found our #1 qb for this season. I don’t think he’s winning us a ACC championship but I do think he has enough to get us to 6-8 wins this season if we see the offense we saw after the first two drives.
 
BKCuse said:
People forget Dungey wasn’t Dungey yet as a soph. Even his senior year people were calling for Devito to replace him at one point.
Shrader is very Dungey like - runs well, struggles with deeper balls and wears his heart on his sleeve.
He has a lot to accomplish to be on par with #2 but give him time to develop
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Disagree. Dungey came in and looked great from his first freshman year appearance. Had that long TD against Wake, he was running for 20 yards and then pitching it at the end of his run to somebody who gained even more. Pretty sure his QB rating as a freshman was...I forget what exactly, but something statistically impressive and significant.

We beat VT with him his soph year, Clemson his junior year. Went toe to toe with better FSU, Miami, and LSU teams.

He was good his whole career, he just took a vicious cheap shot to the head from a central Michigan player, and then got lit up again near the end of a blowout, so due to head injuries very early on, we were on pins and needles the rest of his career.

It was evident from day 1 that he “had it”.
 
His throwing on the move was impressive to me. His confidence was growing through the game, and honestly he is going to win us a game we shouldn’t win this year. Did it feel like his throwing motion was more fluid or just me?
 
It’s amazing seeing a play develop because a qb “buys time” as they say. Head is always up field too. How many times has he thrown the ball away? Like hardly and Devito threw it away once a drive. But then his believers will say “WRs didn’t get open” “line gave him no time”. No, you need a QB who is elusive and has pocket presence. GS gives us a chance every game this year here on out.

Man I really hope we somehow kick it in high gear and win more then lose the rest of the way. Would love to have GS play like he did in the second half yesterday and do it rest of year, and if so we got a shot.
 
OrangeDW said:
Disagree. Dungey came in and looked great from his first freshman year appearance. Had that long TD against Wake, he was running for 20 yards and then pitching it at the end of his run to somebody who gained even more. Pretty sure his QB rating as a freshman was...I forget what exactly, but something statistically impressive and significant.

We beat VT with him his soph year, Clemson his junior year. Went toe to toe with better FSU, Miami, and LSU teams.

He was good his whole career, he just took a vicious cheap shot to the head from a central Michigan player, and then got lit up again near the end of a blowout, so due to head injuries very early on, we were on pins and needles the rest of his career.

It was evident from day 1 that he “had it”.
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Just like it’s evident that GS has something more than TD to make this offense more dynamic. Dungey always had his detractors because of his crappy long balls. We were all nervous he would get hurt again but don’t forget a large percentage of the fanbase (admittedly myself included at the time) wanted to see TD replace him.

IJS People forget how long it took ED to grow into the Great Dungey
 
BKCuse said:
People forget Dungey wasn’t Dungey yet as a soph. Even his senior year people were calling for Devito to replace him at one point.
Shrader is very Dungey like - runs well, struggles with deeper balls and wears his heart on his sleeve.
He has a lot to accomplish to be on par with #2 but give him time to develop
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Truth ^ There were allot of people clamoring for TD cuz he could spin it better than ED and thought he would be the guy for the dome field advantage. Especially after the Pitt loss. Those takes didn't age to well.
 
BKCuse said:
Just like it’s evident that GS has something more than TD to make this offense more dynamic. Dungey always had his detractors because of his crappy long balls. We were all nervous he would get hurt again but don’t forget a large percentage of the fanbase (admittedly myself included at the time) wanted to see TD replace him.

IJS People forget how long it took ED to grow into the Great Dungey
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A lot of that was because Dungey would throw the ball into the ground and then start hopping around holding his arm. People thought his rotator cuff was shot or something.
 
If our offensive playbook is what we saw later in the game yesterday there is absolutely no one on this schedule we can’t beat.

however, if our playbook is like it was the first two drives…there is absolutely no one on the remaining schedule that we can beat.

Got to trust GS with the ball. Good things happen when GS has the ball
 
OrangeDW said:
A lot of that was because Dungey would throw the ball into the ground and then start hopping around holding his arm. People thought his rotator cuff was shot or something.
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Also the thing that gets lost in the Legend of Eric Dungey© is that early in his senior season he did some really stupid things that were reckless. It wasn't just because at the time there was optimism that DeVito would unlock a new level in the offense, piling up passing yards and points. It was because Dungey would lose his head.

Mysteriously, once Dungey got pulled ahead of the NC State game and there was a little question over whether he would start, he cleaned that stuff up considerably.
 
OttoinGrotto said:
Yeah, he doesn't look fast.

And then he just keeps going and it takes dudes a while to catch up.

It's weird.
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It’s not. He’s not quick. But he takes two strides per five yards
 
OrangeDW said:
A lot of that was because Dungey would throw the ball into the ground and then start hopping around holding his arm. People thought his rotator cuff was shot or something.
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Yes there were plenty of warts around Dungey’s ability to throw that years later people tend to forget about. Nassib too didn’t really become a great Qb for us / fan favorite until his senior season.
I’m just saying it was a journey for Dungey to become Dungey and Shrader feels at a similar place in his journey.
The difference being Dungey hadn’t previously won SEC games.
I believe in Shrader.
 
AZOrange said:
It’s not. He’s not quick. But he takes two strides per five yards
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I disagree.

He literally made the first guy into the backfield miss just about 100% of the time.

That takes some quickness.
 
BKCuse said:
People forget Dungey wasn’t Dungey yet as a soph. Even his senior year people were calling for Devito to replace him at one point.
Shrader is very Dungey like - runs well, struggles with deeper balls and wears his heart on his sleeve.
He has a lot to accomplish to be on par with #2 but give him time to develop
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Disagree about Dungey struggling with the deep balls-He was a very accurate deep-ball thrower. If anything, he struggled with the sideline passes.
Good thing about Shrader is he looks like a very good QB, but not a professional QB, at least not at this point. That could give us close to 3 years of him.
 
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I am so confused on why people are still calling for Tommy. I have been in GS from the beginning and he will only get better from here. The only thing Tommy can do better is throw it deep, other than that GS is much better at every aspect of the position.
 
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