Honeymoon Over

[storange]

For me at least. 1 million excuses for being outscored 160 to 67 against 3 mediocre opponents the last 3 week's. I have to see a bowl next year or I'm off the Babers wagon.

 

[81South]

Got to give him 5 years. Trust the process! Dino will get the job done! Patience is the key...we can’t clean house after 3 seasons.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I want off the coaching carousel.

Babers is here for as long as he wants, in my book.

 

[Trueblue25]

4 years is my frame for improvement

 

[Chip]

Got to give him 5 years. Trust the process! Dino will get the job done! Patience is the key...we can’t clean house after 3 seasons.

Yeah, I think it’s going to be 5 years. No one wants to hear that, but it could be reality if we’re going to be the walking wounded every November.

Next year’s bye week will likely be in September, which will probably make it worse. We have no games on Sep 15 and Sep 22, I doubt the ACC will be scheduling league games for us on both weeekends.

 

[PeteCalvin]

Dungey was our top playmaker. Everything flowed through him. That explains the offense. The D? Did they just pack it in early for Christmas break?

 

[OrangeDW]

He’s a good coach and we’re not going to get anyone better. Accomplished coordinator, experienced head coach who won at both of his previous stops, has improved the team on the whole since he took over, and is recruiting well. We have sucked for 15 years, how can we lose patience now? He’s got all the time he needs as far as I’m concerned.

 

[Scooch]

We’ll know next year.

 

[GoSU96]

Dungey was our top playmaker. Everything flowed through him. That explains the offense. The D? Did they just pack it in early for Christmas break?

Other than multiple injuries to key players at all three levels?

I guess nothing.

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

Year four will really be telling. That's about as soft a schedule as Babers will get. He'll have three years of his players in the program, including QBs he recruited. The o-line will be a group of experienced, upperclassmen. If we can't go at least 8-4 that year, it's a big problem. Just hoping for bowl eligibility next season.

 

[PhatOrange]

Not over for me. 5 years minimum

 

[PeteCalvin]

Other than multiple injuries to key players at all three levels?

I guess nothing.

That's what I mean. I don't know the depth chart on D like some other diehards on here, but I knew we were starting to get real thin the latter half of the season. We let Wake shred us, and they aren't world beaters. That's a game we should have had easily. #wouldacouldashoulda

 

[orangecuse]

Not over for me. 5 years minimum

I'm okay with 5 years. I just hope that by the 5th year, we are not just going to the Poulan Weedeater or Astro Bluebonnet type bowl, but one of significantly more stature. I'm sick of this coaching carousel as well, after so much success and stability with Mac & then P, I don't know if I can take another coaching change, especially if it's a result of lack of success on the field.

 

[PhatOrange]

I would be fine with the Poulan weedeater bowl. It’s one more game I get to watch

 

[qdawgg]

I’m going to admit something, I was literally going to be done following the FB program and give up when I thought we were about to hire Ash. You can’t keep decimating the program and that’s what I saw with the possibility of hiring Ash.

I’m all in with DB as our coach. I think next year could be closer to the last half of this season and could potentially be rough. I think we need to see where we are at, at a minimum of year 4 and maybe even 5.

 

[hungrychuck]

I'll add my name to the "Dino for 5" movement right now.

I think he's a great big-picture guy and is the right coach for us.

 

[Ish88888]

Got to give him 5 years. Trust the process! Dino will get the job done! Patience is the key...we can’t clean house after 3 seasons.

No coach gets 5 years these days, thats 1990 talk.

 

[SaltineWarrior]

Given the dramatic change DB is implementing, 5 years really is a minimum. Generally speaking I think coaches are expected to produce sooner than is realistic and should also be afforded at least 5 years but that is the world we live in.

For me, injuries highlight something that I look for in my own business: a single point of failure. If we are so decimated by a particular injury, such as Dungey this year, that is a problem. While I give this staff a pass this year, it will be important to have a reasonably stocked bench in a few years.

Am I saying we should be like Alabama’s pipeline? No. And will I understand the expected drop off if we lose a player like we had in McNabb? Of course. What if injuries pile up at one specific position? Again, that is different. But injuries are part of the game and this staff will be successful if we can survive losing a decent DT, Safety or even a starting QB yet still produce a decent season.

 

[TheCusian]

No coach gets 5 years these days, thats 1990 talk.

They do at smaller P5 schools *if* they show progress.

 

[Millhouse]

For me at least. 1 million excuses for being outscored 160 to 67 against 3 mediocre opponents the last 3 week's. I have to see a bowl next year or I'm off the Babers wagon.

i think this is fair

yards per play this year is very discouraging

i believe in the approach so i'm patient but i'm not going to argue with anyone who gets fed up either

 

[bevosu]

I think Babers is a good hire, but being a half full guy I never expected much for the first two or three years. I'm not disappointed. I did let a little optimism creep in after the Clemson game, and the way the season ended was a sizable letdown.

Injuries...I know every team has to deal with them. Depth has been a problem. When people talk about injuries they usually mention how season ending or multi game injury to key players can hurt a team with questionable depth.

There are other injuries where lack of depth can have a significant impact. I could be wrong, but watching Bennett the past few games makes me think that he (and possibly others) who didn't have totally disabling injuries, but the kind of injury where a comparable replacement might have helped. Since rest might have helped Bennett, and a couple of others?

The reason I say that...Bennett has been really effective in the first half of the past couple of games, but he seemed to lose it in the second half. If you've got nagging injuries and you still play hard there's a chance that a half time break, after the adrenaline subsides (or Toradol injection wears off), will make you more aware of the pain.

I wonder if that has something to do with his falloff in second halves later in the season? We really don't know who had nagging injuries and tried to play through them, but it might have been a factor.

 

[corpjet]

For me at least. 1 million excuses for being outscored 160 to 67 against 3 mediocre opponents the last 3 week's. I have to see a bowl next year or I'm off the Babers wagon.

A bowl in year three is more than a reasonable expectation

 

[corpjet]

I would be fine with the Poulan weedeater bowl. It’s one more game I get to watch

and a lot more practices these young kids need to get better!!!

 

[sdhall01]

This team needed to be built up from nothing. Babers still has an extremely long leash.

 

[SUFan44]

Some of you have no idea (or choose not to have an idea) of how bad the depth is all over the roster.

We beat freaking Clemson this year.

Yes, we sucked at the end of the season. With a backup and third string QB. And a litany of other injuries.

Guy can have a lifetime contract as far as I'm concerned. We've seen what else is out there for us. It isn't pretty.