How about this coach to Marrone...

[timkay99]

I was reviewing a coach when I looked back at that Sumlin thread earlier and came across an interesting name that I think makes for an interesting comparison...

Is Marrone possibly Gary Pinkel? Pinkel came from Toledo as a guy with a ton of offensive capability into a rebuilding job to a team that had gone 4-7 and 3-8 the last 2 years.

Pinkel's first 5 years were:
4-7
5-7
8-5
5-6
7-5 (this is the year they began to be the Missouri we know today)

- in 2001, his first year, Pinkel went over 30 4 times (including 1 D-1AA and Baylor) and 14 or under 5 times.
in 2009, his year year, Marrone over over 30 4 times (including 1 D-1AA) and 14 or under 4 times.

That is where the offensive comparisons ends for the year by year. And I can understand the frustration with the offense not taking off.

But, in 2004 for Missouri (the 5-6 year), the offense scored 30 or more in only 3 games and only once in Big 12 games.

I guess my point with this is, rebuilding takes time. It took Pinkel 5 years to make Missouri a consistent power (think they are a good comparison for Syracuse). Pinkel had a lot more issues on defense then I would say Syracuse has on offense (open to debate). He is similar in that they took a step forward and then a step back as well the following year.

I don't know, I think its a good comp. I might be wrong.

 

[Boston Tiger]

You are absolutely correct that rebuilding takes time. It's also frustrating as heck to sit through the rebuilding process as a fan, because inconsistencies keep showing up in games as the coaching staff transitions from directing players the last staff recruited to the players they recruited. It sure sounds like this is a problem with the Syracuse team this year, based on the reports of internal strife within both the team and the coaching staff that came out this week. There is a reason that coaches are given four or five years to prove themselves, and I'm hoping that Marrone can step up to the challenge, since going back to square one with a new staff is far from ideal. At least he has a couple of years left in the Big East before he needs to step up his game for the ACC.

 

[orangepassion]

Wonder what happens w/ Larry Johnson at PSU

 

[Cuse4Life]

Would be an awesome DL hire...he is the reason Penn St recruits so well...we need to shell out the money to get him asap! Plus he recruits in the north

 

[rrlbees]

Wonder what happens w/ Larry Johnson at PSU

Shady.

 

[orangepassion]

Shady.

I could definitely see that-To his credit, he is the master at taking advantage of coaching changes (See Ray Rice, Jeff Hafley)