I blame Cantor and the PR firm

[NKR1978]

well this Bernie Fine story is very similar to the Mel Phillips/Pat Patterson story from back in the day.

Holy , I forgot about that.

 

[PoppyHart]

If JB is fired/resigns over his comments then this is all on Cantor and the PR firm we hired. Yes JB was dumb to make his comments. But all they had to do was...

1. Say SU does not condone the comments separating what JB said from SU.

2. Make JB apologize and explain himself. So JB would have explained that he was defending a friend and not attacking the accusers. He had no intent to do that and is sorry if it was perceived that way.

3. Fined JB $10,000 for his comments and then donate it to a victims fund.

IMO that would have swayed public opinion and JB would have been forgiven. Instead SU did not act and now have public opinion wanting blood. First it would have been the right thing to do whether Bernie was innocent or guilty. Second it protects SU. Third it protects JB and lets him go out on his own terms. Why in the hell was this not done? Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Thanks Cantor.

Well said. The PR from SU has been less than stellar.

 

[Cuseman78]

Completely disagree, as do most of the CBB journalists on Twitter (who are always out for blood). We have responded in a timely manner with clear, concise statements to both the original allegation, and now to round 2 today. We have hit all of the points and re-iterated that in today's statement that we did not have the tape during the 2005 investigation. We fired Bernie in a timely fashion after the evidence became to the point of embarrassment. I'm not sure exactly what else you expected the University to do during an investigation of this scale. I think the University has handled this as well as could be expected, especially compared to our brethren down in State College.

 

[kuethstheman]

JB screwed JB

Nobody else!

Was JB Boeheimed?

 

[orangenauburn]

Oh montreal ... how you forever changed me

 

[kingottoiii]

Completely disagree, as do most of the CBB journalists on Twitter (who are always out for blood). We have responded in a timely manner with clear, concise statements to both the original allegation, and now to round 2 today. We have hit all of the points and re-iterated that in today's statement that we did not have the tape during the 2005 investigation. We fired Bernie in a timely fashion after the evidence became to the point of embarrassment. I'm not sure exactly what else you expected the University to do during an investigation of this scale. I think the University has handled this as well as could be expected, especially compared to our brethren down in State College.

I think the JB comment thing could have been handled pre tape. That IMO was not timely. We responded well to the original story. We responded well to the tape. We never responded to JB's comments and left our neck exposed. If we dealt with that pre tape then IMO there would be no backlash to JB's comments. Hopefully the backlash will be minimal now. It could put SU in a bad light that we didn't do it pre tape. It makes it look disingenuous. We could and should have stayed ahead of things instead of reacting.

 

[Cuseman78]

I think the JB comment thing could have been handled pre tape. That IMO was not timely. We responded well to the original story. We responded well to the tape. We never responded to JB's comments and left our neck exposed. If we dealt with that pre tape then IMO there would be no backlash to JB's comments. Hopefully the backlash will be minimal now. It could put SU in a bad light that we didn't do it pre tape. It makes it look disingenuous. We could and should have stayed ahead of things instead of reacting.

I said it at the time and I'm sticking to it -- I liked the fact that Boeheim went out and played attack dog. Obviously, it was done so with some risk (which came back to bite him today) but I appreciate that the head basketball coach didn't go the PC route. It obviously opened himself up to criticism but I don't think it did anything damaging to the University.

The University, in their official statements last week and today, went the PC route and hit the nail on the head with both of them. I think our admins have handled things really well.

 

[NKR1978]

I said it at the time and I'm sticking to it -- I liked the fact that Boeheim went out and played attack dog. Obviously, it was done so with some risk (which came back to bite him today) but I appreciate that the head basketball coach didn't go the PC route. It obviously opened himself up to criticism but I don't think it did anything damaging to the University.

The University, in their official statements last week and today, went the PC route and hit the nail on the head with both of them. I think our admins have handled things really well.

Agreed. He went too far obviously, and he should have stopped talking about it after his initial statements, but his initial statements mitigated the damages that first night. While it may have blown up a bit today, his statements helped temper the initial coverage. It also might put the cover up angel to rest. Why would JB come out so strongly if he had any indication something was going on?