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If you could choose, would you prefer 30 wins and sweet 16 or 14 losses + Final 4?

Discussion in 'Syracuse Basketball Board' started by orangepassion, Jan 7, 2017.

  1. NYCSUGrad

    NYCSUGrad All Conference

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    Rude much?
     
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  2. cuseattle

    cuseattle All Conference

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    We did miss out on Kenny Anderson and turned out ok.
     
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  3. two3zone

    two3zone Hall of Fame

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    And Warrick, Rautins and Triche were 3 star players.

    Every situation isn't the same. All 3 stars aren't going to pan out and every recruiting miss doesn't mean you'll end up better.
     
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  4. AZcuse77

    AZcuse77 Scout Team

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    Someone earlier said both opinions are valid, which I agree with. If you as a fan value having a great regular season more, great. If you as a fan value deep runs in the tournament and do not value the regular season more, great. I personally don't agree with how many rounds deep you go in a single elimination tournament being the end-all be-all with 20 vs 30 wins not mattering as long as you make it to the dance. Championships matter a lot more to me than which round you got eliminated in. There is a a lot of parity in college basketball these days, and judging my complete enjoyment of a season on the 1-6 games at the end I think I'd go crazy.
     
  5. NYCSUGrad

    NYCSUGrad All Conference

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    Looked up Quade's history. We were courting him, then Kentucky came in and metaphorically seduced him.

    Top recruit Quade Green spurns Syracuse basketball as he picks Kentucky

    Now he's the one metaphorically seducing his fellow players, per this article:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/kentuc...st-Kentucky-assist-50361812/Amp?client=safari

    Note that the writer used the phrase that Quade would get a lot of dimes to Diallo. Not a direct quote but not your usual sports journalist's lingo either.

    And as per Urban Dictionary, a dime DOES mean a great pass to a teammate. But in the third definition, it doesn't mention basketball, but a quantity of drugs, a hot woman, a term for a rat and --- $10,000.

    Urban Dictionary: dime

    And what is Kentucky rumored to do with recruits?

    As the late Art Linkletter's catchphrase went: "Kids say the darndest things."
     
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  6. cuseattle

    cuseattle All Conference

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    Check out the recruit forum on his thread if you have a few hours. :(
     
  7. two3zone

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    Do any of your posts have a coherent thought?
     
  8. NYCSUGrad

    NYCSUGrad All Conference

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    I usually don't but thanks for the tip; I have in the past.
     
  9. Dave85

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    Final 4.
     
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  10. obliterata

    obliterata All Conference

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    Bad team? Our "bad" team beat 4 ranked teams during the regular season including Duke @ Duke. How many "bad" teams do that? Name one. Some 30-win teams don't do that.

    Last year's squad was a good team that had a good season with a great ending, bad teams don't do what they did.

    B every time
     
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  11. NKR1978

    NKR1978 Living Legend

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    Lute Olson had 5 in 38 years as a head coach. He was a great coach, no one would ever argue otherwise.
     
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  12. NKR1978

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    There are some people JB can't win with. I'd love to go back and find threads after 2012 and see who argued that the season didn't mean much because we lost in the Elite 8.
     
  13. orange79

    orange79 Internet Sleuth Staff Member

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    All-righty then. You have your opinion, I have mine. They're different. I'm not wrong, you're not wrong. Someone is having a bad night. Giants fan? I feel your pain.

    Could you tell me who forced you to read my post (or any other post for that matter) and waste your time so terribly? We take that kind of stuff seriously here, as no one should be forced to read things they find offensive. PM me if you don't want to out your captor. We have ways of dealing with situations such as this.
     
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  14. TCuse99

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    Don't need to read this long thread. The answer is Final 4 and it's not debatable. We can lock this thread now.
     
  15. orangenirvana

    orangenirvana All American

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    You and others in this thread (SWC) are confused.

    Just because most would choose a 14-loss Final Four season over a 3 loss Elite 8 season doesn't mean 2012 "didn't mean much" or any other season that ended before a Final Four is dismissed.

    The 2011-12 season was awesome. Just not quite as awesome as a Final Four season.
     
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  16. newmexicuse

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    programs are measured first by ncs and secondly by ffs. it is an easy choice b.
     
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  17. orange79

    orange79 Internet Sleuth Staff Member

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    Agreed 100%. I don't get the "if you choose the Final Four option you don't care about 30 win seasons" opinions. Just because you choose one (as the OP asked) doesn't mean you don't care about the other. :noidea:
     
  18. NKR1978

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    I like a mix of both, but a Final Four certainly takes the sting off of a couple down years. And I agree, 2012 was a great year. Wire-to-wire top 5 does not happen too often to teams not named Kentucky, Kansas, Duke or North Carolina.
     
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  19. Actionthrill

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    I say final 4. But I also think more people would choose option A if we were still in the Big East with our old rivals. Beating Georgetown, UConn, St. John's, Villanova all meant something. We are now in the ACC with no rivals. So I feel the regular season means a lot less when you're not playing a rival every week. So give me the final 4 but mainly that's the case because our regular season doesn't mean what it used to.
     
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  20. QUSE

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    How are we as Syracuse fans not sick of sweet 16 finishes? We have what 25 of them? Let's be real no fans from elite programs like ourselves would ever bring up sweet 16s unless they wanna mock your post season choking job. How on earth is this even debatable?