Im sick of this Syracuse is going to lose at Duke talk

[OttoinGrotto]

Can't be any worse than it was at the Pete.

That's the thing. I'm pretty sure it can.

 

[MellowFire]

It's a long standing joke around here

Oh okay. Haha I thought it might be, just making sure.

 

[SWC75]

I decided to go to ESPN’s site and look at the games Duke has lost in Cameron Indoor stadium. Their box scores go back to the 2005-06 season. Duke has been beaten in Cameron 10 times since then. Here are the numbers from the box scores of those games:

3/4/06 North Carolina beat Duke 83-76
Duke 22/44 (.500) on two pointers, 7/26 (.269) on three pointers, 11/15 (.733) on free throws, 8 offensive rebounds, 26 defensive rebounds, 16 assists, 7 steals, 7 blocks, 16 turnovers, 17 personal fouls.
UNC 25/52(.481) twos, 5/16(.313) threes, 18/23(.783)FT, 12/33rebs, 17ast, 10stl, 9blk, 16to, 19pf
Duke rebounded 8 of their 41 misses (.195). UNC rebounded 12 of their 38 misses (.316)
Comments: UNC rebounded better, got some steals and got to the line more. Duke didn’t get hot from the arc.

1/6/07 Virginia Tech beat Duke 69-67
Duke 17/33(.515) twos, 5/12(.417) threes, 18/28(.750)FT, 7/26rebs, 11ast, 3stl, 5blk, 22to, 16pf
VPI 22/50 (.440) twos, 4/10(.400) threes, 13/18(.722)FT, 7/21rebs, 10ast, 14stl, 3blks, 6to, 21pf
Duke rebounded 7 of their 28 misses, (.250). VPI rebounded 7 of their 33 misses (.212)
Comments: VPI got a lot of steals which allowed them to get sa lot more shots off. Again, Duke wasn’t hot form outside.

2/4/07 Florida State beat Duke 68-67
Duke 17/37 (.459) twos, 6/15(.400) threes, 15/20 (.750)FT, 8/21rebs, 10ast, 3stl, 6blk, 13to, 16pf
FSU 18/41 (.439) twos, 8/16(.500) threes, 8/11(.727)FT, 9/18rebs, 12ast, 6stl, 1nlk, 12to, 19pf
Duke rebounded 8 of their 26 misses (.308). Florida State rebounded 9 of their 30 misses (.300).
Comments: Duke got to the line a bit more but other differences were small.

2/7/07 North Carolina beat Duke 78-73
Duke 20/45 (.444) twos, 7/18(.389) threes, 12/19(.632)FT, 10/19rebs, 10ast, 8stl, 9blk, 16to, 18pf
UNC 28/49 (.571) twos, 3/12 (.250) threes, 14/18(.778)FT, 8/29rebs, 14ast, 7stl, 6blk, 13to, 18pf
Duke rebounded 10 of their 39 misses (.256). UNC rebounded 8 of their 27 misses (.296).
Comments: UNC dominated inside.

2/28/07 Maryland beat Duke 83-76
Duke 20/48(.417) twos, 9/22(.409) threes, 10/14(.714)FT, 13/20rebs, 9ast, 5stl, 4blk, 11to, 20pf
MD 26/50(.520) twos, 7/13(.538) threes, 12/17(.706)FT, 10/28rebs, 25ast, 3stl, 8blk, 13to, 17pf
Duke rebounded 13 of their 41 misses (.317). Maryland rebounded 10 of their 30 misses (.333).
Comments: Again, Maryland dominated inside. 25 assists?

3/8/08 North Carolina beat Duke 76-68
Duke 15/47(.319) twos, 10/29(.345) threes, 8/9(.888)FT, 16/23rebs, 13ast, 3stl, 7blk, 14to, 23pf
UNC 26/65(.400) twos, 5/11(.455) threes, 9/12(.750)FT, 17/28rebs, 12ast, 6stl, 15blk, 12to, 13pf
Duke rebounded 16 of their 44 misses, (.364). UNC rebounded 17 of their 40 misses(.425).
Comments: Duke hit 10 threes but got crushed inside and out-rebounded. 15 blocks! They also committed a lot more fouls.

2/11/09 North Carolina beat Duke 101-87
Duke 26/46(.565) twos, 8/24(.333) threes, 11/18(.611)FT, 14/16rebs, 18ast, 12stl, 3blk, 14to, 23pf
UNC 28/47(.596) twos, 6/15(.400) threes, 27/31(.871)FT, 10/23rebs, 13ast, 8stl, 2blk, 15to, 17pf
Duke rebounded 14 of their 37 misses (.378). UNC rebounded 10 of their 26 misses(.385).
Comments: Both teams scored well inside but UNC got to the line much more.

1/21/12 Florida State beat Duke 76-73
Duke 15/40(.375) twos, 10/23(.435) threes, 13/17(.765)FT, 12/17rebs, 13ast, 4stl, 1blk, 10to, 17pf
FSU 20/36(.556) twos, 7/14(.500) threes, 15/20(.750)FT, 4/24rebs, 15ast, 6stl, 5blk, 12to, 18pf
Duke rebounded 12 of their 36 misses (.333). FSU rebounded 4 of their 21 misses ((.190)
Comments: Duke had 10 threes but FSU dominated inside, except in getting offensive rebounds.

2/5/12 Miami beat Duke 78-74(OT)
Duke 17/37(.459) twos, 9/31(.290) threes, 13/22FT(.591)FT, 17/23rebs, 12ast, 8stl, 5blk, 11to, 22pf
Miami 21/44(.477) twos, 7/23(.304) threes, 15/25(.600)FT, 18/24rebs, 11ast, 4stl, 0blk, 12to, 19pf
Duke rebounded 17 of their 41 misses, (.415). Miami rebounded 18 of their 41 misses ((.439).
Comments: Not huge differences in the numbers in this one. Miami just shot it a little better.

3/3/12 North Carolina beat Duke 88-70
Duke 20/42(.476) twos, 6/21(.286) threes, 12/21(.571)FT, 7/15 rebs, 12ast, 7stl, 2blk, 6to, 19pf
UNC 32/53(.604) twos, 4/13(.308) threes, 12/15(.800)FT, 13/29rebs, 13ast, 2stl, 1blk, 12to, 21pf
Duke rebounded 7 of their 36 misses (.194). UNC rebounded 13 of their 28 misses(.464).
Comments: Again, Duke got pounded inside and badly out-reboudned.

TOTALS
Duke 189/419(.451) twos, 77/221(.365) threes, 123/183(.672)FT 112/206rebs, 124a, 60s, 49b, 132to, 183pf
OPP 246/487(.505) twos, 56/143(.392) threes, 143/190(.753)FT, 108/257rebs, 142a, 66s 50b, 123to 181pf
Duke rebounded 112 of their 369 misses (.304). Their opponents rebounded 108 of their 314 misses (.344).
Comments: (You can divide by 10 for the averages.) Teams that have beaten Duke in Cameron have scored well inside. They’ve actually out-shot the Blue Devils in percentage from three but made a couple fewer of them. The point is, Duke didn’t go off from outside and didn’t have enough of an advantage there to win. The opposition got to the line about the same number of times but shot a much better percentage. The opponents rebounded a bit better. Duke actually got called for two more fouls than the opposition. A 36 foul game, (18 a piece) could be problematic for a Syracuse team with serious depth problems. Our current average is 16 fouls with 34 for the overall game. It’s not a big difference but it could matter

 

[HtownOrange]

I decided to go to ESPN’s site and look at the games Duke has lost in Cameron Indoor stadium. Their box scores go back to the 2005-06 season. Duke has been beaten in Cameron 10 times since then. Here are the numbers from the box scores of those games:

3/4/06 North Carolina beat Duke 83-76
Duke 22/44 (.500) on two pointers, 7/26 (.269) on three pointers, 11/15 (.733) on free throws, 8 offensive rebounds, 26 defensive rebounds, 16 assists, 7 steals, 7 blocks, 16 turnovers, 17 personal fouls.
UNC 25/52(.481) twos, 5/16(.313) threes, 18/23(.783)FT, 12/33rebs, 17ast, 10stl, 9blk, 16to, 19pf
Duke rebounded 8 of their 41 misses (.195). UNC rebounded 12 of their 38 misses (.316)
Comments: UNC rebounded better, got some steals and got to the line more. Duke didn’t get hot from the arc.

1/6/07 Virginia Tech beat Duke 69-67
Duke 17/33(.515) twos, 5/12(.417) threes, 18/28(.750)FT, 7/26rebs, 11ast, 3stl, 5blk, 22to, 16pf
VPI 22/50 (.440) twos, 4/10(.400) threes, 13/18(.722)FT, 7/21rebs, 10ast, 14stl, 3blks, 6to, 21pf
Duke rebounded 7 of their 28 misses, (.250). VPI rebounded 7 of their 33 misses (.212)
Comments: VPI got a lot of steals which allowed them to get sa lot more shots off. Again, Duke wasn’t hot form outside.

2/4/07 Florida State beat Duke 68-67
Duke 17/37 (.459) twos, 6/15(.400) threes, 15/20 (.750)FT, 8/21rebs, 10ast, 3stl, 6blk, 13to, 16pf
FSU 18/41 (.439) twos, 8/16(.500) threes, 8/11(.727)FT, 9/18rebs, 12ast, 6stl, 1nlk, 12to, 19pf
Duke rebounded 8 of their 26 misses (.308). Florida State rebounded 9 of their 30 misses (.300).
Comments: Duke got to the line a bit more but other differences were small.

2/7/07 North Carolina beat Duke 78-73
Duke 20/45 (.444) twos, 7/18(.389) threes, 12/19(.632)FT, 10/19rebs, 10ast, 8stl, 9blk, 16to, 18pf
UNC 28/49 (.571) twos, 3/12 (.250) threes, 14/18(.778)FT, 8/29rebs, 14ast, 7stl, 6blk, 13to, 18pf
Duke rebounded 10 of their 39 misses (.256). UNC rebounded 8 of their 27 misses (.296).
Comments: UNC dominated inside.

2/28/07 Maryland beat Duke 83-76
Duke 20/48(.417) twos, 9/22(.409) threes, 10/14(.714)FT, 13/20rebs, 9ast, 5stl, 4blk, 11to, 20pf
MD 26/50(.520) twos, 7/13(.538) threes, 12/17(.706)FT, 10/28rebs, 25ast, 3stl, 8blk, 13to, 17pf
Duke rebounded 13 of their 41 misses (.317). Maryland rebounded 10 of their 30 misses (.333).
Comments: Again, Maryland dominated inside. 25 assists?

3/8/08 North Carolina beat Duke 76-68
Duke 15/47(.319) twos, 10/29(.345) threes, 8/9(.888)FT, 16/23rebs, 13ast, 3stl, 7blk, 14to, 23pf
UNC 26/65(.400) twos, 5/11(.455) threes, 9/12(.750)FT, 17/28rebs, 12ast, 6stl, 15blk, 12to, 13pf
Duke rebounded 16 of their 44 misses, (.364). UNC rebounded 17 of their 40 misses(.425).
Comments: Duke hit 10 threes but got crushed inside and out-rebounded. 15 blocks! They also committed a lot more fouls.

2/11/09 North Carolina beat Duke 101-87
Duke 26/46(.565) twos, 8/24(.333) threes, 11/18(.611)FT, 14/16rebs, 18ast, 12stl, 3blk, 14to, 23pf
UNC 28/47(.596) twos, 6/15(.400) threes, 27/31(.871)FT, 10/23rebs, 13ast, 8stl, 2blk, 15to, 17pf
Duke rebounded 14 of their 37 misses (.378). UNC rebounded 10 of their 26 misses(.385).
Comments: Both teams scored well inside but UNC got to the line much more.

1/21/12 Florida State beat Duke 76-73
Duke 15/40(.375) twos, 10/23(.435) threes, 13/17(.765)FT, 12/17rebs, 13ast, 4stl, 1blk, 10to, 17pf
FSU 20/36(.556) twos, 7/14(.500) threes, 15/20(.750)FT, 4/24rebs, 15ast, 6stl, 5blk, 12to, 18pf
Duke rebounded 12 of their 36 misses (.333). FSU rebounded 4 of their 21 misses ((.190)
Comments: Duke had 10 threes but FSU dominated inside, except in getting offensive rebounds.

2/5/12 Miami beat Duke 78-74(OT)
Duke 17/37(.459) twos, 9/31(.290) threes, 13/22FT(.591)FT, 17/23rebs, 12ast, 8stl, 5blk, 11to, 22pf
Miami 21/44(.477) twos, 7/23(.304) threes, 15/25(.600)FT, 18/24rebs, 11ast, 4stl, 0blk, 12to, 19pf
Duke rebounded 17 of their 41 misses, (.415). Miami rebounded 18 of their 41 misses ((.439).
Comments: Not huge differences in the numbers in this one. Miami just shot it a little better.

3/3/12 North Carolina beat Duke 88-70
Duke 20/42(.476) twos, 6/21(.286) threes, 12/21(.571)FT, 7/15 rebs, 12ast, 7stl, 2blk, 6to, 19pf
UNC 32/53(.604) twos, 4/13(.308) threes, 12/15(.800)FT, 13/29rebs, 13ast, 2stl, 1blk, 12to, 21pf
Duke rebounded 7 of their 36 misses (.194). UNC rebounded 13 of their 28 misses(.464).
Comments: Again, Duke got pounded inside and badly out-reboudned.

TOTALS
Duke 189/419(.451) twos, 77/221(.365) threes, 123/183(.672)FT 112/206rebs, 124a, 60s, 49b, 132to, 183pf
OPP 246/487(.505) twos, 56/143(.392) threes, 143/190(.753)FT, 108/257rebs, 142a, 66s 50b, 123to 181pf
Duke rebounded 112 of their 369 misses (.304). Their opponents rebounded 108 of their 314 misses (.344).
Comments: (You can divide by 10 for the averages.) Teams that have beaten Duke in Cameron have scored well inside. They’ve actually out-shot the Blue Devils in percentage from three but made a couple fewer of them. The point is, Duke didn’t go off from outside and didn’t have enough of an advantage there to win. The opposition got to the line about the same number of times but shot a much better percentage. The opponents rebounded a bit better. Duke actually got called for two more fouls than the opposition. A 36 foul game, (18 a piece) could be problematic for a Syracuse team with serious depth problems. Our current average is 16 fouls with 34 for the overall game. It’s not a big difference but it could matter

Appreciate the hard work. This verifies what happened in the game Duke relies on the three and can be beat inside. Syracuse will probably pursue the same strategy as in the Dome and K will mix it up like he did to keep our guys off balance. Should be another close one!