Irish Eyes are not smiling ???

[CuseOnly]

After seeing their basketball team decked out in these the helmets are actually not too bad imo

Looks like something for the burn barrel out back.

 

[anomander]

Yeah, it is a bad thing.

Probably done to save money - with little concern for player safety.

That ND is junking tradition for a buck is certainly not surprising. That institution has demonstrated its willingness to do pretty much anything for money - like using the Big East and the ACC while refusing to make any real sacrifice to the other members.

At least Alabama, USC, Oklahoma and Auburn are sticking to tradition.

Doing so is an important part of college football.

Sorry that you don't see that.

Tradition is winning handfuls of national championships, producing Heisman trophy winners, and pumping out NFL draft picks. Uniforms fall into the "change" category. With everything else changing in the landscape of college football I don't understand how a school wanting to modernize their uniforms to fit the current fashion is such a horrible thing? We might as well keep the single bar facemask since it's tradition.

You can stop with the mocking attitude too.

Some of you guys take this uniform thing far to serious.

 

[rrlbees]

Tradition is winning handfuls of national championships, producing Heisman trophy winners, and pumping out NFL draft picks. Uniforms fall into the "change" category. With everything else changing in the landscape of college football I don't understand how a school wanting to modernize their uniforms to fit the current fashion is such a horrible thing? We might as well keep the single bar facemask since it's tradition. Some of you guys take this uniform thing far to serious.

Says the person who after one thread had died down a couple weeks ago decided to start another the next day.

Some if you also exaggerate. Nobody has said change isn't good. But change doesn't have to be the dropping of the school color.

 

[anomander]

Says the person who after one thread had died down a couple weeks ago decided to start another the next day.

Some if you also exaggerate. Nobody has said change isn't good. But change doesn't have to be the dropping of the school color.

Ya last week I was messing around when I made another thread about the topic that had already been beat to death. I never expected to get another 7 pages full of posts.

Look at both games today. Obviously matching top and bottom is the current style. I have no idea why they would decide to wait to unveil the all oranges until next year, but we know it's coming. But even next year it's not like we're going to be able to wear all orange both at home and on the road. Plus you make it sound like there's no orange. Helmets are orange, so are the numbers. I guess we shouldn't go with the current style the majority of college football is wearing because a portion of the fanbase doesn't like it.

 

[billsin01]

Yeah, it is a bad thing.

Probably done to save money - with little concern for player safety.

That ND is junking tradition for a buck is certainly not surprising. That institution has demonstrated its willingness to do pretty much anything for money - like using the Big East and the ACC while refusing to make any real sacrifice to the other members.

At least Alabama, USC, Oklahoma and Auburn are sticking to tradition.

Doing so is an important part of college football.

Sorry that you don't see that.

I'm not aware of whatever the argument is on tradition but your points on ND are laughable. Putting kids in danger by switching to field turf? Seriously? And as for doing things for a buck, how about SU joining a conference that has a total of one other team in the northeast? I mean, I'm ok with it but it's for nothing more than money. Is ND a money hungry monster? Yes ... But what the hell school isn't?

Hating ND is fine but at least come up with something other than ND doing anything for a dime. If that's your gripe stop watching pro and college sports.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

oh my god the OUTRAGE!!!! What about the classic look? How can they do such a thing!!!! Stripes!!! We need stripes!!!!

You forgot about the pageantry and the sense of tradition! No respect!

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Yeah, it is a bad thing.

Probably done to save money - with little concern for player safety.

That ND is junking tradition for a buck is certainly not surprising. That institution has demonstrated its willingness to do pretty much anything for money - like using the Big East and the ACC while refusing to make any real sacrifice to the other members.

At least Alabama, USC, Oklahoma and Auburn are sticking to tradition.

Doing so is an important part of college football.

Sorry that you don't see that.

I just think you are over reacting to the whole uniform thing. It's the way the game has gone, times change, games change, kids change and so do uniforms. Not a big deal. Army and Navy use to be really good at football too. Tradition is great but have to play for today, to be honest I am tired of hearing about the past when it comes to Syracuse football, let's win now and quit living for yesterday. Shite is old

 

[KCJax03]

I just think you are over reacting to the whole uniform thing. It's the way the game has gone, times change, games change, kids change and so do uniforms. Not a big deal. Army and Navy use to be really good at football too. Tradition is great but have to play for today, to be honest I am tired of hearing about the past when it comes to Syracuse football, let's win now and quit living for yesterday. Shite is old

Ok, I am going to pipe in a bit on this. I am not a color designer however I have a strong technical background in the science of color supporting retail and industrial color formulation / correction systems.

I have no problems with change, I just think the new uniform designs are in some instances very poor with regards to the use of color. The all blue uniforms for instance have to much dark / saturated colors on them. Orange and blue are natural compliments and provide excellent hue contrast but white is needed to provide a lighter accent. The numbers should be outlined in white and perhaps an orange stripe also outlined in white on the pants.

Using orange and black / blue stripes for the numbers on the all white uniforms is also not good color design in my view because the further away you are, you begin to lose the ability to see the individual stripes and the colors bleed together which will cause them to look muted and muddy.

The older uniforms are in my opinion more complete and balanced in terms of the basic color designs which used black and white accents along with the strong blue and orange primary colors.

 

[CuseOnly]

There are 3 things that strike a chord like no other on this board...

1 - New uniforms
2 - Ishaq Williams (and his dad)
3 - Recruiting Star rankings

 

[KCJax03]

Ok, I am going to pipe in a bit on this. I am not a color designer however I have a strong technical background in the science of color supporting retail and industrial color formulation / correction systems.

I have no problems with change, I just think the new uniform designs are in some instances very poor with regards to the use of color. The all blue uniforms for instance have to much dark / saturated colors on them. Orange and blue are natural compliments and provide excellent hue contrast but white is needed to provide a lighter accent. The numbers should be outlined in white and perhaps an orange stripe also outlined in white on the pants.

Using orange and black / blue stripes for the numbers on the all white uniforms is also not good color design in my view because the further away you are, you begin to lose the ability to see the individual stripes and the colors bleed together which will cause them to look muted and muddy.

The older uniforms are in my opinion more complete and balanced in terms of the basic color designs which used black and white accents along with the strong blue and orange primary colors.

Ahhh, I want to stop but have one other thought here then I will never talk football uniforms again.

In architectural color design anyway the goal is to balance monotony and chaos, you must have a pattern but contrasts are needed. Without this balance the design will be either boring or too busy, and in both cases the object will lack a focal point causing the eye to dart around the various elements without ever finding a spot to rest.

The obvious spot to create a focal point on a jersey is the number on the front and back. On the old home jersey for instance the white number outlined in orange popped out against the dark blue background providing a strong focal point.

This is why I do not like the striped numbers on the new jerseys which will cause them to morph into a muted color at distance. My first impression was that nothing really would pop out as a focal point. I could be wrong, this was just my first impression when I saw them.

Or perhaps I just do not like change... {thus ends for all times any discussion of uniforms on my part}

 

[OrangePA]

I just think you are over reacting to the whole uniform thing. It's the way the game has gone, times change, games change, kids change and so do uniforms. Not a big deal. Army and Navy use to be really good at football too. Tradition is great but have to play for today, to be honest I am tired of hearing about the past when it comes to Syracuse football, let's win now and quit living for yesterday. Shite is old

Well, I'm actually talking about 2009 through 2012 - when the program was revived and the traditional look was part of that.

And part of winning is parlaying tradition - Marrone was effective in part because he brought back much of the tradition that Robinson and Gross jettisoned.

It may not mean much to you, but it does to me and to many others.

 

[AZOrange]

Yeah, it is a bad thing.

Probably done to save money - with little concern for player safety.

That ND is junking tradition for a buck is certainly not surprising. That institution has demonstrated its willingness to do pretty much anything for money - like using the Big East and the ACC while refusing to make any real sacrifice to the other members.

At least Alabama, USC, Oklahoma and Auburn are sticking to tradition.

Doing so is an important part of college football.

Sorry that you don't see that.

The turf was done because of player safety. Their field had gone to garbage.