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Is it just me????

Top of my head, snap over Paulus’ head in 2009. Pitt bubble screen 80 yard TD in 2010, Lamar 80 yard TD pass in 2016, ND INT TD in 2022. Shrader hit and fumble against Clemson in 2023 (technically the 3rd play).

I guess it's not THAT bad. But this trip to the Dome, I'd love to see a win.
For first plays and first series, it's an impressive list haha
 
Top of my head, snap over Paulus’ head in 2009. Pitt bubble screen 80 yard TD in 2010, Lamar 80 yard TD pass in 2016, ND INT TD in 2022. Shrader hit and fumble against Clemson in 2023 (technically the 3rd play).

I guess it's not THAT bad. But this trip to the Dome, I'd love to see a win.
At LSU in 2017, Dungey threw a near pick six on I believe the first play of the game. And honestly could have been potentially ejected for the way he tackled the defender out of bounds.

And then 2008 against Penn State in the Dome, if I remember correctly they fumbled on their first play, we then immediately fumbled on our first offensive play, and they scored on like a 70 yard pass right after.
 
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Is it just me or are most of us just totally deflated from Thursday, effectively, anticipating the worst going forward? They looked absolutely unprepared and unable to adjust. This all seems like a movie we’ve seen before.
Had we lost in a close game, I think the vibe would be much different here. The only sliver of hope is that McCord has hopefully now learned to throw the ball into the ground when he's about to get sacked AND does not do his Troy Nunes spin to escape the pocket.

I think fans also need to realize we are facing a more disruptive pass rush this week. A pass rush that gave Cam Ward fits. We don't have Cam Ward's legs.

In summary, I'll have whatever chip is drinking.
 
At LSU in 2017, Dungey threw a near pick six on I believe the first play of the game. And honestly could have been potentially ejected for the way he tackled the defender out of bounds.

And then 2008 against Penn State in the Dome, if I remember correctly they fumbled on their first play, we then immediately fumbled on our first offensive play, and they scored on like a 70 yard pass right after.
that 2008 game I call the "Ichiban game".

Soon after what you describe me and my nephew left, went back to the parking lot, decided to Ichiban for a full 5 course glorious meal watching and enjoying that chef show with the dude flinging shrimp into my shirt pocket, then drove back to the parking lot for the post game tailgate but it was still early fourth quarter!

Anytime now and since then I'm convinced its a painful L, as my fine mess guys know, I'm out rather then sit there and take the pain. That's ever since the first time ever leaving early and that was the Ichiban game.


We've never won when I've hit the road like this, Oh SU fandom, such a cruel reality sometimes...
 
The loss definitely took the wind out of my Sails of Enthusiasm.

But there's still 5 games to be played and this team can certainly have a good season if they finish strong.

The path to 8+ wins is very much there, but that's gotta start at noon on Saturday. Must win IMHO.
I think it needs to be a Must compete vs Must win. If it's a 30-10 loss, then the wheels are gonna fall off completely.

If we lose 27-24 in a spirited old school Big East Tech game, i'm still all in on 8 wins. If we get throttled, we need to find a 6th win.
 
I think it needs to be a Must compete vs Must win. If it's a 30-10 loss, then the wheels are gonna fall off completely.

If we lose 27-24 in a spirited old school Big East Tech game, i'm still all in on 8 wins. If we get throttled, we need to find a 6th win.
Yeah that's a solid point. If we get blown out again I don't think the team can really recover.
 
I think it needs to be a Must compete vs Must win. If it's a 30-10 loss, then the wheels are gonna fall off completely.

If we lose 27-24 in a spirited old school Big East Tech game, i'm still all in on 8 wins. If we get throttled, we need to find a 6th win.
I think our path to 8 is narrow, honestly. It'll be tough to fly to Cal and win out there. Not that we aren't a better team, all things considered, just that I think the physical toll of having 2 cross-country trips within a month is a lot to overcome.

Miami is... Miami. Anything can happen, but we'll be big home dogs for good reason.

That leaves VaTech, BC and UConn. All 3 winnable games and 2 at home.

IMHO a close loss on Saturday is still a loss and makes getting to 8 wins immensely difficult. And I've made my point already about why I think 8 wins is critical for the program going forward.
 
I think we are all too used to the late season collapse that we’re all a bit shell shocked. Anyone expecting playoffs was being delusional and you were setting yourself up to be disappointed. 8-4 is a very real possibility which would be one of our best records in recent history. Let’s not act like the season is over because we got ambushed last week. N
 
And then 2008 against Penn State in the Dome, if I remember correctly they fumbled on their first play, we then immediately fumbled on our first offensive play, and they scored on like a 70 yard pass right after.

I made the trip up there for this game, and even tailgated. But then had to go my cousin's wedding, which was at the same time. I was really frustrated, until I wasn't. Met back up with the crew after and they said getting in the Dome took so long that it was 14-0 by the time they got to their seats.
 
I think we are all too used to the late season collapse that we’re all a bit shell shocked. Anyone expecting playoffs was being delusional and you were setting yourself up to be disappointed. 8-4 is a very real possibility which would be one of our best records in recent history. Let’s not act like the season is over because we got ambushed last week. N

And it's not like that was a traditional ambush from some of our other beatdowns over the years. We dominated the time of possession, outgained them, defense played pretty well. Offense just handed them 24 points.

Virginia Tech is not the ideal team to play after an aggressive defense just gave a blueprint, but let's see what we come up with.

Everyone keeps saying I've never seen anything like that before, so why do people think we will again? (man, please don't let us see that again).
 
As of now it is one game. Just about every team has a big loss every year. Now if it happens again this week, we have a problem.

I think having one win and one close loss in our two remaining ACC home games, and then the same in our two ACC road games is realistic. Plus win comfortably vs UConn. That gets us 8-4 (4-4). It will be a little disappointing to be only 2-2 in the ACC at home, but being 2-2 on the road along with the UNLV win will be a good job. So it will have evened out.
 
I mean, we are 5-2. People are acting like the season is over. Im actually annoyed that people think the ACC is already decided as well. There are still a bunch of conference games to be played for Miami, Clemson and SMU. We lost 2 damn games, and one by a single play.
Stop it, you are too positive for this board. ;)
 
It comes down to getting 8 wins. It’s a hard mark for this program as some have said. Only have had 8 or more regular season wins 1 time from 2002 - 2024.

We do need to understand that is a huge accomplishment in year 1, albeit we had over the top expectations.

JUST GET 8 WINS.

We NEED this game Saturday and I expect them to play like it.
 
I am having a tough time getting excited for the rest of the season. I will watch every game, but playing for the Pinstripe Bowl or Military Bowl at this point isn't really getting me going.

It almost feels like we are rooting to get into the NIT.
Have you been to a Pinstripe Bowl? I had a blast when we went.
 
The only thing we have going for us at this point is VT historically has not played well here.
 
VT lives off the trick play, they do about 5-7 a game. Thats the offense. if the RB doesnt play thats a big key
 
If the second-half collapse didn't happen what seems like every year I doubt the excitement of the season would be fading away. Fans see the same thing happen every year it is hard to get excited. It is a pattern

Big game against Standford on national tv lay an egg
Big game against PITT on national tv lay an egg

This has happened repeatedly for the past decade. Will the late-season collapse also happen? I think some fans are expecting that because it has been burned into their minds for the last ten years or so. Fair or not fair to the current team or coaches but it is a reality.
 
Too much is made of “patterns” as if the team historically is very fragile and all it takes is one hit and they stay down.

The schedule is typically front loaded with winnable non-conference games. That is the major reason we tend to start fast and falter. We simply haven’t been good enough or lacked necessary depth to compete against teams we face later in the season. Our McNabb teams over-scheduled or they’d be accused of similar trajectories.
 
If the second-half collapse didn't happen what seems like every year I doubt the excitement of the season would be fading away. Fans see the same thing happen every year it is hard to get excited. It is a pattern

Big game against Standford on national tv lay an egg
Big game against PITT on national tv lay an egg

This has happened repeatedly for the past decade. Will the late-season collapse also happen? I think some fans are expecting that because it has been burned into their minds for the last ten years or so. Fair or not fair to the current team or coaches but it is a reality.
Hit the hammer on the head. If you’re not worried, you must be new here lol. I get it, I get it, new coach etc. but regardless….. I can’t get the doom out of my mind right now. They just need to show up and play good ball Saturday and walk out with a W. That will change everything in regards to how the fans and team probably feels going into the last 3rd of the year.
 
Top of my head, snap over Paulus’ head in 2009. Pitt bubble screen 80 yard TD in 2010, Lamar 80 yard TD pass in 2016, ND INT TD in 2022. Shrader hit and fumble against Clemson in 2023 (technically the 3rd play).

I guess it's not THAT bad. But this trip to the Dome, I'd love to see a win.
Don't forget the Shrader pick 6 first play of the game against ND 2022.
 
Had we lost in a close game, I think the vibe would be much different here. The only sliver of hope is that McCord has hopefully now learned to throw the ball into the ground when he's about to get sacked AND does not do his Troy Nunes spin to escape the pocket.

I think fans also need to realize we are facing a more disruptive pass rush this week. A pass rush that gave Cam Ward fits. We don't have Cam Ward's legs.

In summary, I'll have whatever chip is drinking.

Yeah, I get the sentiment, especially when considering how the past 2 seasons played out after being 5-0/6-0, etc. and getting into the, let's just say, 'meat' of our schedule as we seemingly are now again this year.

However, I'm looking at this game from a guarded hopeful position, especially after what transpired last Thursday night. I mean, 3 pick sixes in the first half! I can't recall ever witnessing such a thing in my entire life, not even 3 in an entire game for that matter. Not to mention that intersection by Pitt's LB as he laid face down like on the ground...you got to be kidding me!

Therefore, due to same, and how so quickly we were down 3 scores, it kind of exacerbated our O's deficiencies, etc. and magnified the (deemed) stoutness of Pitt's D, where they took complete advantage by T'ing up on our O. It, IMO, made Pitt/their D look far better than it is. IMO, Pitt is nothing more than a slightly above average team, regardless of being undefeated as they really haven't beaten anyone worth a darn, and likely why they aren't gathering more respect nationally/in the polls, etc.. Additionally, they were quite fortunate escaping with a W in their opening game against Cincy, and could've easily lost to Cal.

So, I view what/how things played out last Thursday night for SU as an statistical outlier type deal. Just as one of those peculiar/strange actuarial data points that is difficult to or can't really be explained. At least until further notice, and awaiting to see what actually transpires this Saturday.
 
Yeah, I get the sentiment, especially when considering how the past 2 seasons played out after being 5-0/6-0, etc. and getting into the, let's just say, 'meat' of our schedule as we seemingly are now again this year.

However, I'm looking at this game from a guarded hopeful position, especially after what transpired last Thursday night. I mean, 3 pick sixes in the first half! I can't recall ever witnessing such a thing in my entire life, not even 3 in an entire game for that matter. Not to mention that intersection by Pitt's LB as he laid face down like on the ground...you got to be kidding me!

Therefore, due to same, and how so quickly we were down 3 scores, it kind of exacerbated our O's deficiencies, etc. and magnified the (deemed) stoutness of Pitt's D, where they took complete advantage by T'ing up on our O. It, IMO, made Pitt/their D look far better than it is. IMO, Pitt is nothing more than a slightly above average team, regardless of being undefeated as they really haven't beaten anyone worth a darn, and likely why they aren't gathering more respect nationally/in the polls, etc.. Additionally, they were quite fortunate escaping with a W in their opening game against Cincy, and could've easily lost to Cal.

So, I view what/how things played out last Thursday night for SU as an statistical outlier type deal. Just as one of those peculiar/strange actuarial data points that is difficult to or can't really be explained. At least until further notice, and awaiting to see what actually transpires this Saturday.
I think we're all hopeful that things will correct to the mean Saturday. Whatever that is has to be an improvement over what took place last Thursday.

I'm more concerned that we couldn't move the ball for all the reasons that have been identified. Until that game I felt reasonably confident we could score enough points to keep things interesting against anyone we play. Now it's more of a hope than an expectation.
 
Don't forget the Shrader pick 6 first play of the game against ND 2022.
I'll never forget that. We had the special VIP passes where we got to walk through the tunnel and stand on the sidelines as the players ran out. I had a broken finger from the tailgate.

By the time we got to our seats we were already down 7-0.
 
If the second-half collapse didn't happen what seems like every year I doubt the excitement of the season would be fading away. Fans see the same thing happen every year it is hard to get excited. It is a pattern

Big game against Standford on national tv lay an egg
Big game against PITT on national tv lay an egg

This has happened repeatedly for the past decade. Will the late-season collapse also happen? I think some fans are expecting that because it has been burned into their minds for the last ten years or so. Fair or not fair to the current team or coaches but it is a reality.
Didn’t they win two “national tv” games on the road this year or didn’t UNLV and NCSt happen?
 

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