Is the proverbial shoe about to drop on college basketball royalty?

[dollarbill44]

So does the NCAA bury their collective heads in the sand and say they are waiting until the conclusion of an ongoing investigation or start to act on eligibility issues immediately? It kind of destroys competitive balance when some teams proactively hold players out and others ignore the reports, doesn’t it?

To be fair (I'm not defending the NCAA) they can't act on news stories, so I expect they will wait until the investigation is completed. Unless, the NCAA is getting info from the FBI throughout. I think they will take their time fur legal reasons.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Miller won't last past Sunrise.

Will the headline in the Daily Star be "Tombstone: Arizona"?

 

[Jake]

To be fair (I'm not defending the NCAA) they can't act on news stories, so I expect they will wait until the investigation is completed. Unless, the NCAA is getting info from the FBI throughout. I think they will take their time fur legal reasons.

It'll be fascinating to see how this unfolds this season. I think Miller has to be at least "suspended" by Arizona until the investigation is complete. The NCAA may also tell schools to self impose this year, or risk action next year.

 

[Frozen]

It'll be fascinating to see how this unfolds this season. I think Miller has to be at least "suspended" by Arizona until the investigation is complete. The NCAA may also tell schools to self impose this year, or risk action next year.

I support this.
A few schools banning themselves from this year’s tourney is good for SU.

 

[pearl31]

wowzers

it was pretty clear there was something more at play than the sunny desert locale and Book being a charming fella

 

[Toga]

Miller won't last past Sunrise.

He gone

 

[Toga]

wowzers

it was pretty clear there was something more at play than the sunny desert locale and Book being a charming fella

and coeds

 

[RF2044]

Miller won't last past Sunrise.

Nor should he.

 

[jncuse]

The corruption starts with fans accepting NCAA players not getting paid. Too many people accept that, and then the entire sham goes into action.

They don't want the players paid, they can't transfer, they can't leave early, and they have to give their all to the school, so the "academics" which the system is based on are totally compromised. And of course fans expect schools to win at all costs by bringing in players who have to really ride the system and skirt the rules to survive.


Fans think it's OK to cheat a little. Just enough to justify it in their mind. Cheating a little is OK. Cheating a lot may be OK. As long as its not as much as the next guy, Then we are all good.

And then they act all angry when all the poop hits the fan. What the hell were you expecting?

 

[OrangeDW]

What was Miller thinking being the one to deal directly with the money and talking about it on the phone? He clearly never watched The Wire.

 

[jgeorge322]

Monte morris named by forde. Another guy for some reason we didnt recruit. Maybe this explains jb’s actions some have been so critical of over the years. Like why we never offered cam reddish. Why as the dream school were so often passed over. I hope so anyway.

 

[wallacecuse]

Nor should he.

Yes. It doesn't get more concrete than FBI wiretaps. This isn't the typical he said/she said NCAA crap.

 

[Madbiker]

Can't wait for the class action lawsuits demanding the same $100k for every woman's field hockey member. Going to be the end of collegiate sports.

 

[wallacecuse]

Yes. It doesn't get more concrete than FBI wiretaps. This isn't the typical he said/she said NCAA crap.

I keep thinking of Emmert's "wheelhouse" comment. FBI wiretaps? Batting tee.

 

[rrlbees]

It'll be fascinating to see how this unfolds this season. I think Miller has to be at least "suspended" by Arizona until the investigation is complete. The NCAA may also tell schools to self impose this year, or risk action next year.

I’m thinking we’ll be a 4 seed.

 

[rrlbees]

Monte morris named by forde. Another guy for some reason we didnt recruit. Maybe this explains jb’s actions some have been so critical of over the years. Like why we never offered cam reddish. Why as the dream school were so often passed over. I hope so anyway.

I remember multiple threads questioning what the hell was JB doing in the recruitment of certain players.

 

[rrlbees]

The corruption starts with fans accepting NCAA players not getting paid. Too many people accept that, and then the entire sham goes into action.

They don't want the players paid, they can't transfer, they can't leave early, and they have to give their all to the school, so the "academics" which the system is based on are totally compromised. And of course fans expect schools to win at all costs by bringing in players who have to really ride the system and skirt the rules to survive.


Fans think it's OK to cheat a little. Just enough to justify it in their mind. Cheating a little is OK. Cheating a lot may be OK. As long as its not as much as the next guy, Then we are all good.

And then they act all angry when all the poop hits the fan. What the hell were you expecting?

I’m not going to great lengths here, only to say I’m against paying players. They have given them that cost of attendance thing which is different at each school, but I remain on the side that says these are amateurs getting paid with a free education which at SU is $65k a year.

 

[MikeSU02]

 

[jgeorge322]

I remember multiple threads questioning what the hell was JB doing in the recruitment of certain players.

Does raise an eyebrow. Like were really just ignoring top players for no reason. That doesnt make sense. That being said, im still scared...

 

[pearl31]

I remember multiple threads questioning what the hell was JB doing in the recruitment of certain players.

No need to remember - those sentiments still appear on a daily basis

 

[wallacecuse]

No need to remember - those sentiments still appear on a daily basis

At face value, they have merit. However, the more that gets dug up, the more it makes sense.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

If I'm Arizona right now, I'm not sure I'm doing anything with Miller, as it relates to the NCAA.

Miller gets rolled by the FBI, so it goes. But I wouldn't sacrifice him to the NCAA. I'd make the NCAA do whatever they're going to do. Things are really broken - I don't see the point of any single program falling on the sword when a whole system is in failure.

 

[pearl31]

If I'm Arizona right now, I'm not sure I'm doing anything with Miller, as it relates to the NCAA.

Miller gets rolled by the FBI, so it goes. But I wouldn't sacrifice him to the NCAA. I'd make the NCAA do whatever they're going to do. Things are really broken - I don't see the point of any single program falling on the sword when a whole system is in failure.

Gotta wonder if ADs/Presidents are in communication between schools on this - sort of formulating a unified front

 

[RF2044]

Gotta wonder if ADs/Presidents are in communication between schools on this - sort of formulating a unified front

Could be -- the NCAA has proven repeatedly to be a toothless bull dog -- might as well dare them to bite in lieu of admitting guilt and falling upon one's sword.

 

[rrlbees]

Gotta wonder if ADs/Presidents are in communication between schools on this - sort of formulating a unified front

That would be the NCAA itself since it is made up of ADs and Presidents along with other school administrators. I’m sure there are many convos taking place within the NCAA.