James Vollono (ST coordinator)

[PhatOrange]

When Syracuse was great at special teams, they had starters and two deep players all over the units. I would prefer we get back to that model.

 

[sufandu]

Coach P IMO wouldn’t help schematically for our system nor playing against today’s Os.

I don't know that I want him designing a defense, but he is a fundamentals freak. I bet someone like him would help us cut down on mistakes.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

When Syracuse was great at special teams, they had starters and two deep players all over the units. I would prefer we get back to that model.

Fran seemed to be into that.

I'm not.

 

[Cusefan69]

Coach P IMO wouldn’t help schematically for our system nor playing against today’s Os.

Disagree. All offenses have dna to prior offenses. Your comment suggests new offenses are so complex that experienced eyes could not assess and counter. You don't bring him in to necessarily call plays but rather to provide ERob with a set of seasoned eyes on the defense, watch tape and help gameplan and teach things like taking proper angles, tackling, etc. Paul has seen plenty of offenses and believe could easily identify weaknesses in schemes.

 

[sufandu]

if coach P wont help then why does UNC hire coach B?

I'm not sure they're comparable. B has always had a reputation for being creative and adaptable. P knows the game but I don't know that creative is an adjective that would fit him.

 

[baggerbob]

Robinson brings other things to the table that Vollono didn't. He has the recruiting reputation. If he can produce there, we can live with some growing pains while he grows into the DC role. It helped him that we seemed to tighten up in the redzone this year. We need to get better everywhere else next year. Gotta land/develop some pass rushers.

Need to have 4 healthy DT, and 4 healthy Edge players and the defense will be a lot better.

 

[upperdeck]

just find a guy who can turn the corner 1-2 times a game on the edge please.

 

[sufandu]

Fran seemed to be into that.

I'm not.

I think you do it selectively. I don't want scrawny shifty playmaking WR's slamming their bodies into guys on kickoff coverage, but if they can turn a corner and block a fg, put them there.

I would like us to find some freak athletes that just never quite get the mental side of defense to put on kick coverage. JR Johnson was that. Big, fast, and mean, he was a stud on kick coverage but was never quite able to convert the freak athleticism to making the 2 deep on defense.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I think you do it selectively. I don't want scrawny shifty playmaking WR's slamming their bodies into guys on kickoff coverage, but if they can turn a corner and block a fg, put them there.

I would like us to find some freak athletes that just never quite get the mental side of defense to put on kick coverage. JR Johnson was that. Big, fast, and mean, he was a stud on kick coverage but was never quite able to convert the freak athleticism to making the 2 deep on defense.

Absolutely.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

I think he’s just trying to create an argument where there isn’t one.

No, he’s not!!!

 

[Niastri]

Coach P IMO wouldn’t help schematically for our system nor playing against today’s Os.

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Pasqualoni was coaching the defensive line of the Carolina Panthers two seasons ago. We aren’t talking about bringing a guy back who was out of football the last twenty years.

He’s currently linebackers in the UFL, which means he’s still very much current and well…available for hire.

 

[corpjet]

Fran seemed to be into that.

I'm not.

Me neither not worth the injury risk.

There's no reason our depth players can't do a "serviceable" job on STs. There's a reason you don't see the Pro Bowlers on O and D playing STs at the next level, risk way outweighs the reward.

 

[kcsu]

I think you do it selectively. I don't want scrawny shifty playmaking WR's slamming their bodies into guys on kickoff coverage, but if they can turn a corner and block a fg, put them there.

I would like us to find some freak athletes that just never quite get the mental side of defense to put on kick coverage. JR Johnson was that. Big, fast, and mean, he was a stud on kick coverage but was never quite able to convert the freak athleticism to making the 2 deep on defense.

Need guys that can run and like to hit. On punt blocking unit they have to be schooled to realize where the pressure is coming from and to NEVER allow any one up the gut push everything outside.
Snapper needs to be a stud. Every .1 between his arse and the punter counts

 

[Scooch]

if coach P wont help then why does UNC hire coach B?

I’d say that Bill Belichick a year removed from his NFL career is a different kind of hire than Pasqualoni.

 

[dwilmont44]

I think we should hire the best candidate for the job, not whatever makes a good story.

 

[cayugacuse]

Me neither not worth the injury risk.

There's no reason our depth players can't do a "serviceable" job on STs. There's a reason you don't see the Pro Bowlers on O and D playing STs at the next level, risk way outweighs the reward.

Agree. It's a good way for the backups to work their way up the food chain and add to their resume. They also can focus more on specials. We are gaining depth now and we should be able to get enough talent from our roster to do this.

 

[bnoro]

Me neither not worth the injury risk.

There's no reason our depth players can't do a "serviceable" job on STs. There's a reason you don't see the Pro Bowlers on O and D playing STs at the next level, risk way outweighs the reward.

None of our starters got injured playing ST this year

 

[PhatOrange]

Fran seemed to be into that.

I'm not.

You wouldnt want Marvin Harrison returning punts?

I’m not into having walkons on coverage teams.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

You wouldnt want Marvin Harrison returning punts?

I’m not into having walkons on coverage teams.

We threw so little to Marvin that punt return was a good way to get him the ball.

But the right answer is actually, no, don't put Marvin at risk on punt returns, throw the ball to him more.

 

[PhatOrange]

We threw so little to Marvin that punt return was a good way to get him the ball.

But the right answer is actually, no, don't put Marvin at risk on punt returns, throw the ball to him more.

False

 

[PhatOrange]

WMe neither not worth the injury risk.

There's no reason our depth players can't do a "serviceable" job on STs. There's a reason you don't see the Pro Bowlers on O and D playing STs at the next level, risk way outweighs the reward.

This isn’t the NFL and besides, in the NFL the guys playing specials are still world class athletes. Hardly the same thing.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

False

You're making the argument that it's a good decision to put Marvin Harrison in a high risk position to utilize his talent instead of simply having him do the more natural thing at his position more often.

I'll admit, it's bold.

 

[PhatOrange]

You're making the argument that it's a good decision to put Marvin Harrison in a high risk position to utilize his talent instead of simply having him do the more natural thing at his position more often.

I'll admit, it's bold.

His senior year he caught 56 passes and returned 22 punts, two of which were TDs. He averaged 16.8 yards per return and 9.2 as a junior. Yes I’m putting my best skill guys in those positions. Same with Spotwood and Pena.

Im definitely making the argument that if I want good special teams I’m going to put my best players on the field.

 

[721Comstock]

His senior year he caught 56 passes and returned 22 punts, two of which were TDs. He averaged 16.8 yards per return and 9.2 as a junior. Yes I’m putting my best skill guys in those positions. Same with Spotwood and Pena.

Im definitely making the argument that if I want good special teams I’m going to put my best players on the field.

AND - as has been said before -
many of those best players want to play ST’s,
So there’s tape of them doing that well, which can help them latch on in the NFL.

See: Tyree, David as Example A.

Speaking of which…

 

[OttoinGrotto]

His senior year he caught 56 passes and returned 22 punts, two of which were TDs. He averaged 16.8 yards per return and 9.2 as a junior. Yes I’m putting my best skill guys in those positions. Same with Spotwood and Pena.

Im definitely making the argument that if I want good special teams I’m going to put my best players on the field.

We'll never know for sure, but I humbly submit we would have had a better season had those 22 punt returns been 22 more receptions with someone else returning those punts.

He's one of the greatest WRs of all-time. Why is it better to use him as punt returned instead of just throwing the ball to him more?