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JB is hammering the team in this PC

Objectively in the ACC Conference

1. Duke
2. Louisville
3. Virginia
____________
4. Miami (Note:Soft schedule, best wins over and overrated Florida Team that had a few key players out, and a meh Illinois team)
but overall I think will be pretty good.
5. Notre Dame (Note: Soft Schedule, best win home versus overrated Michigan State team)
6. Syracuse
7. North Carolina (Note: I am not scared of North Carolina)
______
The rest
__________
So overall outside of the Duke, Louisville, and Virginia the rest of the conference is pretty meh to mediocre in my opinion.

Syracuse has a chance to hang around and still make the NCAA Tournament.
Watch the PC linked below JB clearly thinks we are a bottom half ACC team right now.
 
I was listening to it on another tab while checking the forum out, when he screamed at the end I thought he was kidding around, I had to rewind it and holy crap, I haven't seen him that mad in awhile during a press conference.
 
There's a fine line there. All true, based on results.

But the situation is, you've got the team you've got. They're not going to change, you brought them here and it's the team you'll have all year.

If I'm a player on the team, in the back of my mind I've got two thoughts in my head upon hearing Coach rail about us in the press Conference (I didn't hear the PC): 1) It was a major, strategic tactical error to play 2-3 zone against Michigan, giving their limited players who can shoot wide open shots, particularly inside 2 minutes; 2) it's clear Roberson is the team's 3rd/4th best player, but he's been treated like the 7th-8th guy and it cost us performance/games….coaching stature matters, and when the Hall-of-Famer is yanking you after one play repeatedly I'd be timid too. No surprise at all that Roberson played well today after all potential subs were unavailable…human nature.

All that said, the Coach is the one tasked with motivating these guys so that's the way he thinks it'll work best, hope so.

I still think the team needs better defined roles that the players can understand and seek to excel at….Cooney's play was particularly heartening today. G would have made a difference, his drives at the end of Michigan game shouldn't be diminished. Xmas should touch it every time down court.

But, back to the topic at hand, I think the best method of coaching/motivating nonprofessional players is behind the curtain, not out in the open like this appears to be...
EMU played all zone and beat Michigan. End of story on that one. And I know that Roberson was playing poorly in practice. I mean real poorly. That is why he wasn't playing.
 
I don't really think with G on the bench that JB wanted him in there. Kaleb played because I don't think JB trusts Cooney or Patterson to bring the ball up with pressure.
???? Cooney was the one to bring the ball up for the majority of the time in the last 10 minutes. And he did a solid job of it. Kaleb has yet to learn he can't be tentative in his decision making. Then again, he's just learning to be a point guard.
 
JB should be mad at himself and his staff.

They recruited these players.
 
Then outside of Duke, LVILLE, and UV.

A lot of teams in the ACC are gonna have trouble winning games.
 
Good for coach. Sometimes I wonder if these kids were ever coached in HS. Their basic fundamentals are really bad. Most of these kids turnovers are because they never look at the basket. It doesn't mean you have to shoot, but you have to look at the basket or teams will just play your pass. This is part of KJ's biggest problem. All of our young players, including Silent G, are having trouble making simple passes because they aren't looking at the basket. Just bring the ball to your face and you open up passing lanes. Keep the ball low, and the defensive player is going to keep his hands down to tip or knock away your pass. Louisville, Duke, or any pressure team is going to give this team fits. You tell kids in elementary school to catch the ball with TWO HANDS. EVERY SINGLE TIME. I'd be ticked off if I was coach too. We'll know in one week if they are coachable or a bunch of knuckleheads!
 
realorange said:
???? Cooney was the one to bring the ball up for the majority of the time in the last 10 minutes. And he did a solid job of it. Kaleb has yet to learn he can't be tentative in his decision making. Then again, he's just learning to be a point guard.[/QUOTE

What I meant was not having Joseph in the court with him. Patterson and Cooney in the backcourt may have been worse in JBs eyes.
 
JB should be mad at himself and his staff.

They recruited these players.

Who of the players they recruited are you not happy with ?

You were very impressed with Kaleb Joseph. And you were dogging Chris McCullough (based on 2 games, 2 games you saw)

Who has lived up to expectations more ? I will trust Coach and staff in recruiting/evaluating over you.
 
We had the scouting report and had all week to work on it.

We identified #3 as the guy we did not want to allow to shoot and we identified 2 lob plays that they like to run and we worked on defending them.

At halftime #3 has 15 points and they've ran the lob play successfully 3 possessions in a row.
 
did JB really say at end of presser that basically (ie other than Cooney) all his guys are playing out of position this yr?
 
I thought it was a pretty fair assessment.. I actually expected much worse. At least he didn't say or do anything that will be the lead story on Sportscenter.
 
Who of the players they recruited are you not happy with ?

You were very impressed with Kaleb Joseph. And you were dogging Chris McCullough (based on 2 games, 2 games you saw)

Who has lived up to expectations more ? I will trust Coach and staff in recruiting/evaluating over you.[/QUO
JB has now said what I said. It is going to be a real struggle. We just aren't good. We have seen good to great for over 40 years. This team isn't it. We play some guys that would never play for a Syracuse team.
 
did JB really say at end of presser that basically (ie other than Cooney) all his guys are playing out of position this yr?
No. He said we are asking people to do things that they have not done before. Joseph is a pt guard who in high school played all over the place. Rak always played down low but was never asked to be a scorer. That type of thing
 
Who of the players they recruited are you not happy with ?

You were very impressed with Kaleb Joseph. And you were dogging Chris McCullough (based on 2 games, 2 games you saw)

Who has lived up to expectations more ? I will trust Coach and staff in recruiting/evaluating over you.

I look forward to seeing your persistence this season
 

Listen, I can deal with if this is a Down season (It happens sometimes) We will be back on the UP.

I just don't think our fan base can.
 
This team just isn't good. Which honestly after 6 straight seasons as a top 4 seed in the NCAAT isn't a problem. Just hope the players improve and JB doesn't get so frustrated he wants to hang them up. JB clearly doesn't like how they have played at 6-3 we have 3 more wins in the OOC games and hope we can win some ACC games and get better.

The NCAAT is a bonus for us fans if the team gets better.
 
Listen, I can deal with if this is a Down season (It happens sometimes) We will be back on the UP.

I just don't think our fan base can.
Stop it this team went to the NIT in 2002 and won the NC in 2003. We went to the NIT in back to back seasons in 2007 and 2008 and we have been top 2 in attendance pretty much every year. Stop with this garbage our fanbase is passionate we care about our program. The people who can't handle this season are few and far between. So because our fanbase is full of realists and realize this a tough year all of sudden the fanbase won't come back stop.

Seriously get off the high horse.
 
CuseHulk said:
Who of the players they recruited are you not happy with ? You were very impressed with Kaleb Joseph. And you were dogging Chris McCullough (based on 2 games, 2 games you saw) Who has lived up to expectations more ? I will trust Coach and staff in recruiting/evaluating over you.

JB is clearly disappointed in the play of some of his players.

McCullough played tonight like he did when I saw him. He's a freshman. Gonna happen, but he's not an elite freshman.

Joseph will be a good player in another year.

Our sophomores haven't lived up to expectations, but it was good to see Roberson play well today. Encouraging.
 
the thing that has me terrified is that we will lose Rak and Chris. What then?
Just like the TRob/DNic/Watkins/McCrosky class set us back two years we will be fine. Our fanbase realizes we may struggle the next year and maybe next, but we recruit well enough the fanbase will be fine.

I am sure if JB has to push some buttons he will.
 
Then outside of Duke, LVILLE, and UV.

A lot of teams in the ACC are gonna have trouble winning games.
I think ND is going to have a real goof conference slate. Theyre one of the only college teams I have seen that can actuallly score and shoot
 
Objectively in the ACC Conference

1. Duke
2. Louisville
3. Virginia
____________
4. Miami (Note:Soft schedule, best wins over and overrated Florida Team that had a few key players out, and a meh Illinois team)
but overall I think will be pretty good.
5. Notre Dame (Note: Soft Schedule, best win home versus overrated Michigan State team)
6. Syracuse
7. North Carolina (Note: I am not scared of North Carolina)
______
The rest
__________
So overall outside of the Duke, Louisville, and Virginia the rest of the conference is pretty meh to mediocre in my opinion.

Syracuse has a chance to hang around and still make the NCAA Tournament.

CuseHulk, I think you're confusing the definitions of the words "objectively" and "subjectively."
 

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