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[two3zone]

This is a molehill. That was a mountain.

I’m not comparing the JB to thing to it, just saying what you do outside of work can have an impact at the workplace.

 

[two3zone]

And how many people commenting in this thread are supposed to be working? LOL

I’m semi retired. Lol

 

[Orangezoo]

And how many people commenting in this thread are supposed to be working? LOL

Multi tasking is a skill good sir .

 

[Brooky03]

This is a molehill. That was a mountain.

We’re on the same page with our words haha

 

[Brooky03]

I’m semi retired. Lol

I read ‘retired’ as a different word and almost spit out my drink.

I need to reflect on that

 

[Day2]

Why be rude to anyone?

He’s not going to change all of a sudden after getting away with it for 47 years.

 

[Fly Rodder]

Looks like the newly self appointed board expert has everything figured out. We shall see if that temper is also all sorted out .

Apparently he has access to SU's financials and ticket sales don't matter.

 

[Cuse181]

I enjoy getting upset at everything as much as the next guy, but acting like this is some PR nightmare just goes to how sheltered people are in their worlds. PR nightmare is beating your fiancée or buying hookers for your recruits, this press conference stuff is only obsessed over if you have nothing else going on during the day.

 

[Fly Rodder]

He’s not going to change all of a sudden after getting away with it for 47 years.

Good thing there's a year in year out top 20 team on the hill that is the revenue leader for the AD.

Maybe if he's tired of being paid millions to coach a game he could retire to his lake house and live a stress free life away from, checks notes, student journalists.

 

[Toga]

I enjoy getting upset at everything as much as the next guy, but acting like this is some PR nightmare just goes to how sheltered people are in their worlds. PR nightmare is beating your fiancée or buying hookers for your recruits, this press conference stuff is only obsessed over if you have nothing else going on during the day.

I have nothing else going on so I'm good.

 

[kingtidge]

Why be rude to anyone?

To convey displeasure and superiority.

 

[DilemaCuse]

The ‘accused’ gets to state his perspective. If he didn’t think he bullied him, then why wouldn’t he say he didn’t bully him?

That response, should be beneath Jim due to the status and position he has attained.

It reeks of insecurity and pettiness.

A leader can admit their flaws and handle it better. Thats my opinion.

 

[Brooky03]

Good thing there's a year in year out top 20 team on the hill that is the revenue leader for the AD.

Maybe if he's tired of being paid millions to coach a game he could retire to his lake house and live a stress free life away from, checks notes, student journalists.

Speaking of being paid millions, JB has given the program a steep discount on his services almost his whole career. When he was legitimately a top 5 or 10 coach for decades, he was paid as something like the 30th or 40th best coach.

That discount might be a factor in the long leash he has.

That, and firing him is akin to kicking a man out of a house he built with his bare hands. Not that that should mean he gets to do whatever he wants.

 

[Brooky03]

That response, should be beneath Jim due to the status and position he has attained.

It reeks of insecurity and pettiness.

A leader can admit their flaws and handle it better. Thats my opinion.

Jim disagrees with you. That’s his opinion.

 

[Day2]

Good thing there's a year in year out top 20 team on the hill that is the revenue leader for the AD.

Maybe if he's tired of being paid millions to coach a game he could retire to his lake house and live a stress free life away from, checks notes, student journalists.

He’s not tired of it, he’s just not changing for your benefit or anyone else’s. You know, like most 78-year-olds.

The only people complaining about this are journalists and disgruntled fans. Nobody else cares. I didn’t even comment until today…because I can’t believe we’re still whining about this on Thursday.

 

[two3zone]

I read ‘retired’ as a different word and almost spit out my drink.

I need to reflect on that

 

[Bayside44]

And how many people commenting in this thread are supposed to be working? LOL

 

[dasher]

Wonder why this is suddenly such a serious issue now after 47 years? Like it or not, he’s always been dismissive to student reporters. So many of the great fans on this board don’t even bother to listen to the podcasts by people like Sean McDonough etc who happened to speak about how it was back in his day. Certainly has become a rallying point for some, suddenly when the team isn’t doing well, meeting expectations. Hmm. Interesting, if we were winning big , who did and would prioritize this? Brent Axe is having a ball with it too.

Well, we should have. And some of us did. JB is a bully. Period. He always has been. I guess he always will be. I don't have any proof of this but I believe it is why the Post Standard went after him in the early 90's and the NCAA went after him a few years back. You just can't be a jerk for no reason at all. Was that question a surprise to JB? Every reporter there would have asked that as their first question. He needs to leave. The sooner the better. Oh, and we don't know how we would react if we were still winning. Because we are not. We aren't anything special anymore. And the only way people still talk about us is when our coach tells us that a punch isn't a punch and a valid question isn't a valid question.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Hope we get a quality win this year.

 

[Brooky03]

You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain

 

[dasher]

Hope we get a quality win this year.

In all fairness, we do have a few should haves.

 

[Brooky03]

Hope we get a quality win this year.

I’ll hope our fans get better.

I’ll do that in one hand and crap in the other and see which fills up faster.

 

[Fly Rodder]

Nobody else cares

You and Brooky. Lol. I understand you don't live here and don't go to the games, but it's sad. And JAB ain't helping matters. The 78-yo cohort is no longer going to be buying the season tickets in 3-4 years.

 

[M2MPrinciples]

Media like to circle the wagons when they sense one of their own is being attacked, even if it's a student who may or may not go into the industry professionally. Heck, if it's a student, that probably exacerbates it since it's not a full-time job. That's why this is a story (to the extent it is one), not because Boeheim lashed out.

And I will quibble a little with the student reporter's phrasing of the question. "What's the status on Benny Williams" is pretty shabby (and, yes, overly aggressive) wording if the goal is to elicit a straightforward response from JB. A better way would be to say something like "Benny Williams took a personal day today, do you expect him back at practice this week?" Being a beat reporter involves asking tough questions, but it also involves building and maintaining a relationship with your subject, which in turn involves being able to gauge how you should approach the subject to get what you need.

Boeheim isn't going to change after 47 years of being the big chief. I can and have accepted that, but that doesn't mean it doesn't reflect poorly on the program. And while it's not realistic to expect Boeheim to change, it absolutely reflects poorly on Pete Moore that he didn't sense that people would be asking follow-up questions and distribute some kind of message about Benny's status moving forward.

 

[Orangezoo]

In all fairness, we do have a few should haves.

We have. Unfortunately the should haves keep piling up on this downward stretch. Really thought UNC and UVA were gonna be in the proper column..