Jim Boeheim (and one other) test positive for COVID; basketball program pauses...

[Mareiniss]

Since we're asking about people's professions, any chance you're a rodeo clown?

 

[Ozone!]

Coach will come through this fine. He is a fighter and quite vigorous!
For all those who think someone else’s health and well-being are fair targets; I salute you

 

[longtimefan]

You mean like Slim Pickens?

I didn't realize James Earl Jones was in "Strangelove".

 

[longtimefan]

Not to nitpick, but 99% according to the Worldometers site.

COVID Live Update: 140,531,555 Cases and 3,012,208 Deaths from the Coronavirus - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

"Be fine." This assumes that death is the only negative outcome of a bout with the virus.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Not to nitpick, but 99% according to the Worldometers site.

COVID Live Update: 140,531,555 Cases and 3,012,208 Deaths from the Coronavirus - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

Again, death is NOT the only negative outcome from having Covid-19.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

"Be fine." This assumes that death is the only negative outcome of a bout with the virus.

Well said.

 

[dan7800]

I got tested in August on Griffiss and it was the same. It was a little eerie with military directing you around and everybody in the testing area with full body PPE haha

I was tested at Griffis as well. They have their act together there and I felt extremely safe. I was also tested at a few clinics who tested me outside outside of their main doors.

 

[orangecuse]

"Be fine." This assumes that death is the only negative outcome of a bout with the virus.

It probably doesn't, but I wasn't making that case, you are by asserting a separate and subsequent argument. I simply referenced an objective statistical finding that 99% of current outstanding cases fall into the "mild" category according to its website.

Obviously, there are cases out there where individuals are facing some negative (living) residual affects, etc., but that does not appear to be the ordinary/garden variety sequence, but rather a small overall percentage to my understanding. Possibly, I'm misinformed and you can further enlighten me by providing me with information/data from a reputable website, etc. that suggests otherwise, and/or that these current residual affects will be a definitive chronic long term condition and rendering permanent impairment, etc.

 

[A Clockwork Orange]

Not to nitpick, but 99% according to the Worldometers site.

COVID Live Update: 140,531,555 Cases and 3,012,208 Deaths from the Coronavirus - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

Around 9% for people over the age of 70. Jumps to 20% for people over 80. Obviously, comorbidities also play a role. Beyond that, many people over the age of 70 who don't die have major long-lasting complications from it. Not that this will happen to Coach B., but it isn't outrageous. Praying that he has a swift and symptom-free recovery.

 

[orangecuse]

Around 9% for people over the age of 70. Jumps to 20% for people over 80. Obviously, comorbidities also play a role. Beyond that, many people over the age of 70 who don't die have major long-lasting complications from it. Not that this will happen to Coach B., but it isn't outrageous. Praying that he has a swift and symptom-free recovery.

Yeah, no doubt pre-existing conditions plays a significant role, not only with death but with residual complications for COVID survivors of this demographic as well.

Even though I posted a smiley emoticon with my original post, I should've know better than to post anything on this forum COVID related. I long left that "Coronavirus Update" thread that started last winter here in the hoops forum before it moved to the Off Topic. That thread turned into a divisive Morton Downey Jr.-esque thing where I no longer had any further interest in engaging in.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

It probably doesn't, but I wasn't making that case, you are by asserting a separate and subsequent argument. I simply referenced an objective statistical finding that 99% of current outstanding cases fall into the "mild" category according to its website.

Obviously, there are cases out there where individuals are facing some negative (living) residual affects, etc., but that does not appear to be the ordinary/garden variety sequence, but rather a small overall percentage to my understanding. Possibly, I'm misinformed and you can further enlighten me by providing me with information/data from a reputable website, etc. that suggests otherwise, and/or that these current residual affects will be a definitive chronic long term condition and rendering permanent impairment, etc.

The post you were responding to made the assertion that 98% of the people that catch the disease will be fine. That’s patently false.

 

[OrangeDW]

The residual effects of contracting this virus, even if one experiences only minor symptoms, can be significant and are not fully understood at this point.

 

[longtimefan]

It probably doesn't, but I wasn't making that case, you are by asserting a separate and subsequent argument. I simply referenced an objective statistical finding that 99% of current outstanding cases fall into the "mild" category according to its website.

Obviously, there are cases out there where individuals are facing some negative (living) residual affects, etc., but that does not appear to be the ordinary/garden variety sequence, but rather a small overall percentage to my understanding. Possibly, I'm misinformed and you can further enlighten me by providing me with information/data from a reputable website, etc. that suggests otherwise, and/or that these current residual affects will be a definitive chronic long term condition and rendering permanent impairment, etc.

Just trying to point out some facts.

First, this disease is different from anything that modern medicine has faced. It is always stealthy, and sometimes fatal. We know more about it than we did at the beginning of 2020, but the unknowns are much greater. How long do the antibodies produced when the human body defends itself against the viral invader last? Which leads to: can one be infected more than once, as with seasonal flu? And, how long will vaccine protection endure? We really know nothing about any long-term effects. Anecdotally, we know that some people ("long haulers") have lingering debilitation. As Their Numbers Grow, COVID-19 “Long Haulers” Stump Experts
We don't know if there might be permanent organ damage.

And, when you say "small overall percentage", we need to ask "percentage of what"? At the rate we're going (150K new cases per day and climbing), "what" is going to be a very big number.

 

[SBU72]

On a related branch, back in March many of us questioned whether JB should coach at all if there was a 20-21 season. Ignoring those who said at the time there would a vaccine by September or at the least a treatment, I hope that the extended fears expressed then STOP at infection and not an other consequences.

 

[moqui]

Since we're asking about people's professions, any chance you're a rodeo clown?

been waiting for the right moment for this, thanks OttoinGrotto

 

[CIL]

I’m sure JB will be fine, the same as 70 year old Nick Saban was and 98% of everyone who catches it.

IFR is close to 5 percent for people in his age range. So sure, he may be fine. But some folks won’t be.

If I ga e you a gun with 20 chambers and one bullet in it, would you pull the trigger? And now give that gun to 40.3 million people and you have 2 million deaths on your hands. (Age 65 and over, and the IFR for those over 80 is closer to 15 percent)

 

[CIL]

Not to nitpick, but 99% according to the Worldometers site.

COVID Live Update: 140,531,555 Cases and 3,012,208 Deaths from the Coronavirus - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

Actually, not to nitpick, but you suck at reading numbers. The dearth rate of confirmed cases is roughly 97 percent. Not 99.

 

[orangecuse]

Just trying to point out some facts.

First, this disease is different from anything that modern medicine has faced. It is always stealthy, and sometimes fatal. We know more about it than we did at the beginning of 2020, but the unknowns are much greater. How long do the antibodies produced when the human body defends itself against the viral invader last? Which leads to: can one be infected more than once, as with seasonal flu? And, how long will vaccine protection endure? We really know nothing about any long-term effects. Anecdotally, we know that some people ("long haulers") have lingering debilitation. As Their Numbers Grow, COVID-19 “Long Haulers” Stump Experts
We don't know if there might be permanent organ damage.

And, when you say "small overall percentage", we need to ask "percentage of what"? At the rate we're going (150K new cases per day and climbing), "what" is going to be a very big number.

Exactly. Time will tell relative to long term and whether there will be permanent impairment and to what extent, etc. The same can be said about the unknowns. Speculating one way or the other is just that, speculation at this point in time.

Looking back at the post that I originally responded to, I can see where I exposed myself relative to the "be fine" and comprehensive dissection of that. Honestly, I saw the 98% and my mind went right to "current active cases" being mild and how that particular website lists 99% (vs. 98%) of them in the mild category. In that moment, I wasn't thinking about the consequential and broader recovered period, residual effects standpoint, etc. you've subsequently are focusing on.

Interestingly, though not that surprising based upon the aforementioned "Coronavirus Update" thread, and usual suspects there, a relatively neutral and somewhat light post (hence the smiley with it) of mine generated such seemingly aggressive responses.

 

[orangecuse]

Actually, not to nitpick, but you suck at reading numbers. The dearth rate of confirmed cases is roughly 97 percent. Not 99.

What is dearth rate? If you're referring to "death" rate, you should at least learn how to spell correctly if you are going to openly and intentionally mock someone else's alleged ability. Nonetheless, I hope that your post made you feel better about yourself and fulfilled some void.

For what it's worth, I was referencing the current "Active Cases" and how 99% of those fall into the mild category.

 

[Halfmooncuse]

No It isn't Buddy

Is it Mooky?

 

[Halfmooncuse]

What is dearth rate? If you're referring to "death" rate, you should at least learn how to spell correctly if you are going to openly and intentionally mock someone else's alleged ability. Nonetheless, I hope that your post made you feel better about yourself and fulfilled some void.

For what it's worth, I was referencing the current "Active Cases" and how 99% of those fall into the mild category.

Liberate JB!

 

[PhatOrange]

IFR is close to 5 percent for people in his age range. So sure, he may be fine. But some folks won’t be.

If I ga e you a gun with 20 chambers and one bullet in it, would you pull the trigger? And now give that gun to 40.3 million people and you have 2 million deaths on your hands. (Age 65 and over, and the IFR for those over 80 is closer to 15 percent)

I get it, but on the flip side if you needed an elective heart procedure done that had an 85% survival rate you might take it. People do that all the time.

theres 11.2 million confirmed cases with 246k deaths. That’s 2%

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Going off on tangent here but since when did # of followers (popularity) determine if someone is a loser? If he had 500,000 followers would it make his comment any more justified?

Welcome to the early 21st century.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

I get it, but on the flip side if you needed an elective heart procedure done that had an 85% survival rate you'd probably take it.

my kid had an ‘elective‘ procedure done that had a 2% mortality rate and none of the professionals batted an eyelash for recommending it be done.

And nothing about those procedures resulted in any danger to others, did it? You and your son's choice was about something that would have an effect on him and him alone; that's not the case with covid.

IT'S. NOT. JUST. ABOUT. YOU.

 

[PhatOrange]

And nothing about those procedures resulted in any danger to others, did it? You and your son's choice was about something that would have an effect on him and him alone; that's not the case with covid.

IT'S. NOT. JUST. ABOUT. YOU.

who the hell said it was about me and how do even jump to that conclusion ?

For a smart guy YOU. CANT. READ.