John Gruden and Greg Olsen Didn't Like Fran Brown's Antics

[Atlcuse44]

The big question is: Do you still get washed after an ugly win? Maybe just a quick rinse off with no soap?

 

[Briancuse]

Well gruden is a racist and Olsen brother is scum.

 

[DuxburyO]

I have three issues with running sprints after the game:
1. Some were jogging, not sprinting.
2. Barely 20 yards - make them do a few 50 yarders
3. Coaches need to show accountability and run with the team. That is my biggest issue.

I honestly do not understand the uproar some pundits and fans are having over this. Was it theatrics? Maybe but we have gotten soft as a society. I read comments on X under the original post. People making comments that players will be running to the portal over this. Give me a break.

Number 3 would help number 1. Number 2 I agree, but I’m not running them.

 

[orangefog]

You have to have a strong opinion on everything these days. Opinion equals relevance.

I STRONGLY disagree!!!

 

[DoctahLexus]

Just my opinion, but coaches running sprints would be lame as hell no matter how poorly they coached. That would be true attention seeking behavior for the cameras if we had them running along with the players. My only complaint would be the jogging, but this is still a total nothingburger that will be forgotten by everyone in 48 hours.

 

[Cusefan95]

Coaches do stuff like this all the time. Sometimes - like with the 1980 Olympic hockey team - it works out spectacularly well and the coach ends up a legend. Sometimes it’s a disaster and you end up with Lou Holtz on the Jets. Most of the time it doesn’t really impact anything and it’s a largely forgotten footnote in history.

There’s no way to know where this ends up, we always claim after the fact that we knew it right away but that’s rarely the case. While it being mostly irrelevant is most likely, there’s a universe where we’re talking about this in two years when Brown gets fired as a beginning of the end - and a universe where we’re talking about this in 25 years as a launch point to a legendary coaching career.

Come and ask me in five years what I thought about this - the prudent thing at the moment is to have no opinion.

 

[Newhouser]

Dusty and Danny on the morning college sports radio show both loved it.

One thing is for sure, Fran knows how to get attention.

I think your last line is right on. Fran was sending a message and I didn't have a problem but to think he wasn't aware it may draw some attention...seems naive.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Agree. Embarrassing your very young team on a national stage does not seem very DART

1) It wasn’t on a national stage. It was after the game, in an almost empty Dome. Then someone put it on-line.
2) It’s totally DART. HCFB told the team if they didn’t perform up to his standards, they would run after the game. If he didn’t make them run, he wouldn’t have been accountable.

 

[dollarbill44]

If the players were embarrassed by anything I think it would be their play on the field. Fran Brown holding this team to a higher standard than grinding out a win against an inferior opponent at home isn’t a problem, people are just soft. The only problem I have is that some of the coaches didn’t run too, they certainly played a part in the dysfunction we saw.

I agree with this. I feel like everyone should have run. If asked, I would have joined them on the field, because I didn't bring my A game all day either. In fact, I would rate my fan performance as a C+/B-. I got up and yelled for 3rd downs, but I wasn't "bringing it" like I did for Miami last year.

 

[richmondcuse03]

If you think Fran is doing this for media attention, you're mistaken. He does stuff to send a message to his team, the fans and recruits/their parents. He's good at using the media for attention, sure, but this could have just as easily not been covered and he would have been fine with it. He didn't have this mapped out to go "viral." As he said, he warned the team this would happen win or lose if they didn't do certain things. They didn't.

He does stuff like this at practices all the time and nobody ever sees it. You're just getting a glimpse of what he does all the time with the team. And honestly, he's probably annoyed he didnt make the coaches run too. He preaches about holding them and himself accountable and getting better all the time, and they should have run, too.

 

[rocklloyd]

The big question is: Do you still get washed after an ugly win? Maybe just a quick rinse off with no soap?

Just a quick wipe down with moist towlettes

 

[Cuse On 3]

I gotta be honest, Gruden is the last person I would have thought would oppose to something like this. Seems like something he’d love

 

[David321]

Half of the stuff Gruden says seems "performative" so I find this ironic.

 

[Blanko97]

In hindsight, it would have been entirely cool to watch the coaches running alongside them. Plenty of blame to go around.

Agreed, that decision wouldve been dart

 

[Blanko97]

Fran did it because he was ticked off. [He said "pi$$ed" in the post game TV interview that was broadcast later.] I'm not sure it was to show the fans.

even if it was just to show us, im happy to see it. I like seeing that they are being real about what success looks like and it isnt an overtime win over UConn where you underperform for 52 minutes

 

[OttoinGrotto]

No such thing as bad publicity.

 

[Rufus_13th]

There's a lot of context here people like Jon and Dave Pizza boy don't look for since its not a point spread or a ML.

 

[Cuse On 3]

The amount of UConn fans and Miami fans who have been calling Fran a douche bag on X & YouTube comments makes me realize his decision to run gassers after a bad performances was the correct decision.

 

[Chip]

If you think Fran is doing this for media attention, you're mistaken. He does stuff to send a message to his team, the fans and recruits/their parents. He's good at using the media for attention, sure, but this could have just as easily not been covered and he would have been fine with it. He didn't have this mapped out to go "viral." As he said, he warned the team this would happen win or lose if they didn't do certain things. They didn't.

He does stuff like this at practices all the time and nobody ever sees it. You're just getting a glimpse of what he does all the time with the team. And honestly, he's probably annoyed he didnt make the coaches run too. He preaches about holding them and himself accountable and getting better all the time, and they should have run, too.

I don't think it's just for media attention. I think he wants to draw attention from parents of recruits, potential donors, etc.

I know in this case, he did tell his team they'd be doing it if they didn't perform to their standards, and he had to hold to it. But I also think he wants to attract an audience of people who can help elevate this program.

I also think he was upset with his team's performance (and probably himself and staff as well) for most of the game and wants to send that message that it needs to be better.

 

[dollarbill44]

If you think Fran is doing this for media attention, you're mistaken. He does stuff to send a message to his team, the fans and recruits/their parents. He's good at using the media for attention, sure, but this could have just as easily not been covered and he would have been fine with it. He didn't have this mapped out to go "viral." As he said, he warned the team this would happen win or lose if they didn't do certain things. They didn't.

He does stuff like this at practices all the time and nobody ever sees it. You're just getting a glimpse of what he does all the time with the team. And honestly, he's probably annoyed he didnt make the coaches run too. He preaches about holding them and himself accountable and getting better all the time, and they should have run, too.

And, maybe he had the coaches run at practice today.

 

[Oakland]

As an aside, Greg was the analyst on the 49er broadcast yesterday - he is a very good analyst.

 

[OrangeTarheel]

I would *love* to see the fans run sprints if they don’t hit a certain decibel level. How can we make that happen. I’ve seen our fanbase and they could stand some cardio

 

[AZOrange]

If you think Fran is doing this for media attention, you're mistaken. He does stuff to send a message to his team, the fans and recruits/their parents. He's good at using the media for attention, sure, but this could have just as easily not been covered and he would have been fine with it. He didn't have this mapped out to go "viral." As he said, he warned the team this would happen win or lose if they didn't do certain things. They didn't.

He does stuff like this at practices all the time and nobody ever sees it. You're just getting a glimpse of what he does all the time with the team. And honestly, he's probably annoyed he didnt make the coaches run too. He preaches about holding them and himself accountable and getting better all the time, and they should have run, too.

I’m stunned he didn’t run…it’s such a Fran thing

 

[richmondcuse03]

I don't think it's just for media attention. I think he wants to draw attention from parents of recruits, potential donors, etc.

I know in this case, he did tell his team they'd be doing it if they didn't perform to their standards, and he had to hold to it. But I also think he wants to attract an audience of people who can help elevate this program.

I also think he was upset with his team's performance (and probably himself and staff as well) for most of the game and wants to send that message that it needs to be better.

Completely agree. There's a lot of reasons he does stuff. He's obviously calculated and shrewd about what he does. But from what I saw watching the bench on Saturday, the entire coaching staff was livid with kids for missed assignments and mental errors for much of the game. They were sleep walking. I'm curious how much of this is youth / missing key leaders or just not having the right leaders step up for the team yet. Hope they learn from it.

 

[richmondcuse03]

I would *love* to see the fans run sprints if they don’t hit a certain decibel level. How can we make that happen. I’ve seen our fanbase and they could stand some cardio

no kidding. i hate being that guy because the crowd that stayed to the end was great...but we could use some more energy from our fanbase besides on key third downs. The Miami atmosphere is what I dream of week in and week out. But I'm also insane and love yelling...