Just watched the game again

[GoSU96]

Can't take someone who thought it was a given that we would score 30 ppg this year seriously

it’s game two acumen boy

 

[Chris02M]

what plays were those?

at least one was towards queeley who was wid open 25-30 yards down the field and the throw end up in the bench

 

[Cusester]

Acumen boy. I may have to borrow that and claim I came up with it.
It's also a term I would use for all of the Marrone haters here. Well done Go!

 

[tep624]

he’s the only guy that right now gives any hope of having a pass game, and he’s shown he can make plays with his legs. I don’t want an offense that depends on a guy free lancing as the go to play

The only year Dino has been successful is with an offense that depends on a guy freelancing.

 

[PhatOrange]

The bizarre thing I thought was TD was playing fairly decent when the staff switched to Shrader. Then when TD wasn’t playing decent they did not switch to Shrader.

Agreed

also when TD went back in he wasn’t the same. They really screwed the pooch subbing him out.

After not playing GS in the Ohio game when they should have, they then tried to make it right by playing him against ruggers (scripted) when they shouldnt have. Amateur hour with the personnel decisions. They should have recognized TD was on and crisp and left him in.

 

[PhatOrange]

The grounding was because Queeley broke in instead of out, and was supposed to run a comeback to the sticks, which is exactly where the next throw went but the receiver wasn’t there

I missed the play likely cause tv hadn’t cut over yet. But I don’t recall ever in my lifetime an intentional grounding flag when the receiver ran the wrong route. Was TD under duress, what made it grounding or was that another bad call?

 

[GoSU96]

when TD went back in he wasn’t the same. They really screwed the pooch subbing him out.

After not playing GS in the Ohio game when they should have, they then tried to make it right by playing him against ruggers (scripted) when they shouldnt have. Amateur hour with the personnel decisions. They should have recognized TD was on and crisp.

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I missed the play likely cause tv hadn’t cut over yet. But I don’t recall ever in my lifetime an intentional grounding flag when the receiver ran the wrong route. Was TD under duress, what made it grounding or was that another bad call?

I think it was talked about during the Mississippi Louisville game. Similar call, it’s a risk with option timing routes and the Qb and receiver don’t make the same call, and it’s now going to be enforced

 

[Orangeman]

The reason we lost that game was because of penalties and a great punter. Period. After watching Schiano get away with screaming at the ref with every swear word known to New Jersey, Dino gets called? Seriously. Cantin-Arku never touched the receiver. Harris's knee was down. How far was Bergeron off the line?
You guys are ready to fire a coach who held a team that scored 61 points in their last game to zero points at the half. They would've only scored 3 if the penalties hadn't been "appropriated" at the right moments. We were 1 and 10 last year. It was a good game. Great defenses. Our line mostly held up. Give it a break.

I do NOT want to fire the coach, but I DO want to see what the other QB can do consistently

 

[hoopsupstate]

I find it ironic how people thought Shrader should have played against Ohio, but now say it disrupted Devito. Don’t you think the same thing might have happened against Ohio too? Dino said he was pleased with Tommy’s reads in the Ohio game. When you change quarterbacks good things don’t always happen.

 

[kcsu]

when TD went back in he wasn’t the same. They really screwed the pooch subbing him out.

After not playing GS in the Ohio game when they should have, they then tried to make it right by playing him against ruggers (scripted) when they shouldnt have. Amateur hour with the personnel decisions. They should have recognized TD was on and crisp.

Great post. Dino messed up both kids. Guy has zero feel

 

[PhatOrange]

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I think it was talked about during the Mississippi Louisville game. Similar call, it’s a risk with option timing routes and the Qb and receiver don’t make the same call, and it’s now going to be enforced

that’s crazy then…the call is intentional grounding. There’s no intent when you’re not on the same page with the WR. The rule is there so QBs getting sacked can’t just throw it away. Spiking it is effectively intentional grounding.

 

[wolfhound]

I missed the play likely cause tv hadn’t cut over yet. But I don’t recall ever in my lifetime an intentional grounding flag when the receiver ran the wrong route. Was TD under duress, what made it grounding or was that another bad call?

Bad call, had end zone seats, watched AQ cut inside as Devito threw to an outside route. None of us could believe a grounding call was made. The explanation that Devito was still in the box did not hold water!
On Devito, I think of quarterbacks like shooters, when the shots keep rimming out ( or the receivers drop catchable balls) they start losing any rhythm in the passing game, drops, special teams mishaps, and very strange refereeing (yes I am being kind) killed any momentum the offense could muster

 

[upperdeck]

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I think it was talked about during the Mississippi Louisville game. Similar call, it’s a risk with option timing routes and the Qb and receiver don’t make the same call, and it’s now going to be enforced

its a lazy call by the refs.. you want to call grounding they always take about who was in the area.. but the refs at the WR level have to use some logic when they have the discussion about the call.. when you have 2 WRs who both turn in and not out as the ball is leaving the QBs hand then its not grounding.. had they done curls or outs it would have been fine because they were both close enough to maybe catch it. thats not the intent of the rule..

 

[Alsacs]

Our HC punted on 4th and 10 on the plus 41 because he had no confidence in the offense and this post rationalizes the offense was fine.
We literally have 0 passing TDs in 2 games.
Our offense was predictable, below average and easy to defend.

We cost ourselves 6 points that still wouldn’t have made our performance any better.

 

[Scooch]

I find it ironic how people thought Shrader should have played against Ohio, but now say it disrupted Devito. Don’t you think the same thing might have happened against Ohio too? Dino said he was pleased with Tommy’s reads in the Ohio game. When you change quarterbacks good things don’t always happen.

It’s almost like a head coach should be able to choose a starter and not tinker around with a 2 QB “rotation” that fails 90% of the time.

 

[PhatOrange]

I find it ironic how people thought Shrader should have played against Ohio, but now say it disrupted Devito. Don’t you think the same thing might have happened against Ohio too? Dino said he was pleased with Tommy’s reads in the Ohio game. When you change quarterbacks good things don’t always happen.

If you’re going to rotate QBs it can’t be off a script. It has to be about feel.

 

[richmondcuse03]

Our HC punted on 4th and 10 on the plus 41 because he had no confidence in the offense and this post rationalizes the offense was fine.
We literally have 0 passing TDs in 2 games.
Our offense was predictable, below average and easy to defend.

We cost ourselves 6 points that still wouldn’t have made our performance any better.

The offense is broken. We were supposed to be a system and maximized number of plays per game etc. we’ve gone from scoring 60 plus with Mahoney to scoring 7 against Rutgers. And punting down two scores with 7 mins to go from the freaking 40. If this was the first game of all these penalties and mistakes….sure. But even when we were winning, the team was undisciplined. We need a good system and coaching to overcome talent discrepancies - but this is no longer the same system. The play calling is a disaster and the offense has been out of sorts for the past three years. It’s not just one game.

 

[phil77]

5th year senior I expect more than that dumpster fire I saw on Saturday especially against a terrible team.

 

[kcsu]

His systen has been figured out. Its Red and Rotten

 

[richmondcuse03]

His systen has been figured out. Its Red and Rotten

He’s not even using the same system.

 

[upperdeck]

This is not a system thing. its just bad execution. the QB was not running for his life. the Rbs had some holes, the WRs were often open..

 

[kcsu]

He’s not even using the same system.

It doesn't matter what car hes using he cant drive

 

[zjscuse]

Fully agree Tommy should’ve stayed in till the end of the half, we were rolling along pretty well on o.. but also at the same time I had 0 confidence we were going to pull out the win when it mattered . No one in my section thought differently either, we all knew it was over . That intentional grounding was awful but if it was a broken play and not him panicking then I’ll eat crow on that one. I would love for him to turn it around but honestly I think the coaches failed him more then he failed us.

 

[upperdeck]

if you tell shrader he can come and compete and play and then you never put him on the field to see what he can do then thats not good either.. I think though if you put him out there you better have him to the things he can do and people think its running the ball. did we even run a real RPO, cause if we did then rutgers played it to have the QB keep it. the 3-4 real good QB runs looked more straight designed runs than RPO.

 

[perdurabo]

Our wide receivers are mediocre at best. Tight ends AWOL. OL is work in progress.