KenPom Rankings

[CardiacCuse]

Not that I care at all about evil Georgetown. But it’s weird that they’re only at 73 in KP, even though they’ve beaten two higher rated teams in Clemson and Maryland. Beat Binghamton too but only by 13.

using data/input from last season is why kenpoms rankings dont make sense right now

with the portal and roster flux as it is, it is a strange decision to factor in past seasons imo

but i suppose the betting markets need to use something

 

[Dinkyspond]

Let's keep climbing!!

low 40s gets you into the NCAAs

 

[atlanticuse]

started to get... at least hopeful

 

[DomeHolmes]

Why does anybody play anything but sub 350 teams? Are they idiots?

I don't know the sarcasm font around these parts

Now you know how the Mountain West rolls!

 

[jimb]

How does playing a division 3 school help us? -- really don't understand all this.

 

[GoSU96]

How does playing a division 3 school help us? -- really don't understand all this.

D-3?

Huh?

 

[jimb]

D-3?

Huh?

MY bad. Googled, and got the Monmouth in Illinois (Instead of the one in New Jersey) Oops!

 

[Knicks411]

low 40s gets you into the NCAAs

Based on last year, that was nearly exactly the cutline. (I know it's not that simple)

 

[jncuse]

Based on last year, that was nearly exactly the cutline. (I know it's not that simple)

I'd say 2025 is generally the rule

2024 (the year before last) was the big exception. There was a lot of high NET teams that year (in their 20's) that were not secure on selection day because of W/L resume, and some missed.

In terms of KP in 2024, six of the top 40 missed.

2024 was an odd year though. I remember noting it at that time, that there had never been so many high NET (or back in the day RPI) teams that were on the bubble.

 

[FireballPhil]

MY bad. Googled, and got the Monmouth in Illinois (Instead of the one in New Jersey) Oops!

That school in Illinois is about a 20 minute drive for me. Need me to get someone's autograph for you?

 

[cuseattle]

I'd say 2025 is generally the rule

2024 (the year before last) was the big exception. There was a lot of high NET teams that year (in their 20's) that were not secure on selection day because of W/L resume, and some missed.

In terms of KP in 2024, six of the top 40 missed.

2024 was an odd year though. I remember noting it at that time, that there had never been so many high NET (or back in the day RPI) teams that were on the bubble.

They had to make room for the Tar heels last year too.

 

[wiseman3]

Monmouth is at 234 in Kenpom today...definitely the strongest team we will be facing so far. They were actually winning by 7 at halftime against Seton Hall (#92, 4-0). They ended up losing by 12. But a good 20 point win would be another great sign.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Houston will be incredible test. My hope is we keep it to single digits.

 

[shermstheman]

Houston will be incredible test. My hope is we keep it to single digits.

I’d like to beat them by more than that

 

[blust2i3d4]

Any guess if the the narrow escape makes our KenPom ranking fall 10 places?

 

[FrancoPizza]

Any guess if the the narrow escape makes our KenPom ranking fall 10 places?

Not 10 but definitely a few.

 

[721Comstock]

Any guess if the the narrow escape makes our KenPom ranking fall 10 places?

Yes.

 

[jncuse]

Down from 48 to 53

 

[blust2i3d4]

Not 10 but definitely a few.

Fell from #47 to #53. Only fell six places.

 

[blust2i3d4]

Down from 48 to 53

We were #48 yesterday. But was #47 before the game started.

 

[jncuse]

So some team in our range certainly struggled as well. Could be a let down period as teams gear up for tourney week.

Washington at #47 is in OT against #189 Southern right now.
Arkansas at #43 beat #117 Winthrop by 1.

 

[sufan59]

Bart Torvik non preseason data went from 13 to 34. That’s what happens when you only win by 5 against a sub 200 team. But it is what it is. Team got a wake up call tonight and have a gauntlet coming up.

 

[jncuse]

Our SOS has rocketed up from 365 out of 365, to #361 after last night.

 

[Niastri]

Our SOS has rocketed up from 365 out of 365, to #361 after last night.

Is that still including the preseason guesses about how good teams would be, or is that only including the games actually played this season?

 

[RedtheGOB]

Is that still including the preseason guesses about how good teams would be, or is that only including the games actually played this season?

Preseason bias lasts until at least mid December. I want to say it's like 10-15 games for Kenpom. Teams have played 4-5.

Obvi it's weighted so each game played the prior year bias goes away a little more.