Kiyan Anthony Appreciation

[23Zone]

With Freeman out and all the issues with Nait George and Starling, I'm fine with him looking to score

 

[Nicknack]

He’s better than that. I’d rather he shoot than George or JJ. He will gain some confidence if he knocks a few down.

You are what your numbers say you are. Can he improve, sure and I think he will eventually but right now, it's not good.

 

[Ottoman]

With Freeman out and all the issues with Nait George and Starling, I'm fine with him looking to score

I think that's a critical point. Do you want a freshman like Kiyan to be extra aggressive? Normally, no. But we are missing our top scorer and our other guards have really struggled to be a consistent scoring threat - which in turn limits everyone else on the court. To my eye, Kiyan seems the most likely out of all of them to go out and score 15+ pts. We are going to have to take the good with the bad.

 

[Ottoman]

Kiyan is going to be pushing for even more time after Mercyhurst. It's not that he played so well, it has more to do with how rough George has been. 6 turnovers against a bad opponent just doesn't get it done.

 

[Nicknack]

I think we're good with our current line up. Kiyan hasn't looked all that good aside from 4 games maybe. He will continue to improve, no doubt, but he has a lot of stuff he needs to improve on this level. George did a lot of good things tonight. I wish he was further along, but I think he will serve us well late season in the pg role.

 

[hoopsupstate]

I think we're good with our current line up. Kiyan hasn't looked all that good aside from 4 games maybe. He will continue to improve, no doubt, but he has a lot of stuff he needs to improve on this level. George did a lot of good things tonight. I wish he was further along, but I think he will serve us well late season in the pg role.

His one horrible turnover in the first half was bad, but his reaction after turning it over was worse. He watched and made ZERO effort to run the guy down. He should never have gotten back on the floor for the remainder of the game. It was one of the most blatant lack of effort I’ve ever seen.

 

[atlanticuse]

If we can lose to Hofstra without him in, we can lose with him in. Or maybe even win.
Not saying Red plays to lose, but having high dollar NIL guys doing jack squat isn’t working.
Not like sitting him increases his chance to stay next year.

 

[CuseFan]

Kiyan is a slasher, and needs to keep driving and getting fouled within 4-8 feet of the rim. He generates offense by making others move on defense, and his own teammates.

He is a decent 3 point shooter too, but his shot selection is not great as he takes too many shots too deep, typically with no one under the basket or prepared to rebound. Like to see him take a step or two in on those to increase his 3pointer make rate.

 

[sufan59]

 

[Eric15]

Kiyan will be fine. We're all programmed to think that because his last name is Anthony he's going to be a superstar right out of the gate. He has all the raw skills to be an excellent 2-3 year player for us. He's already ahead of where say Dion Waiters was at this point in his freshman year.

 

[Newhouser]

Kiyan will be fine. We're all programmed to think that because his last name is Anthony he's going to be a superstar right out of the gate. He has all the raw skills to be an excellent 2-3 year player for us. He's already ahead of where say Dion Waiters was at this point in his freshman year.

You'd take Frosh Kiyan over Frosh Dion? On this team?

 

[Cusefan0307]

Waiters was better. He just played less because we had better players.

 

[Eric15]

You'd take Frosh Kiyan over Frosh Dion? On this team?

I remember Dion being extremely rough around the edges and unreliable for much of his freshman year (similar to Warrick), and then obviously he just exploded his soph year and became a star.

 

[CuseTG2003]

I like Kiyan and think he'll be crafty good, but his lack of athleticism is an issue. He's nowhere near as talented or good as Dion was his freshman year. Dion was the number four pick. IMO, Kiyan will be lucky to get drafted due to his athletic limitations.

 

[FrancoPizza]

We're all programmed to think that because his last name is Anthony he's going to be a superstar right out of the gate.

Literally nobody thought that, except maybe you.

 

[Brooky03]

I like Kiyan and think he'll be crafty good, but his lack of athleticism is an issue. He's nowhere near as talented or good as Dion was his freshman year. Dion was the number four pick. IMO, Kiyan will be lucky to get drafted due to his athletic limitations.

Dion wasn’t anything special his freshman year. He showed flashes. Kiyan has shown flashes.

Dion’s exceptional trait was being built like a brick …house. Kiyan needs to bulk up a bit over the next couple years, but otherwise has enough athleticism and skill with the ball to make it, imo. Dion had excellent ballhandling and couldn’t be stopped with a full head of steam; he was never a ‘twitchy’ or ‘springy’ type athlete, though. If his vert was measured, it probably wouldn’t be anything eye catching; he used his craftiness and strength to beat defenders more so than speed or quickness (not to say he was below average in either).

 

[CuseTG2003]

Dion wasn’t anything special his freshman year. He showed flashes. Kiyan has shown flashes.

Dion’s exceptional trait was being built like a brick …house. Kiyan needs to bulk up a bit over the next couple years, but otherwise has enough athleticism and skill with the ball to make it, imo. Dion had excellent ballhandling and couldn’t be stopped with a full head of steam; he was never a ‘twitchy’ or ‘springy’ type athlete, though. If his vert was measured, it probably wouldn’t be anything eye catching; he used his craftiness and strength to beat defenders more so than speed or quickness (not to say he was below average in either).

I agree w/ a lot of this. Team composition plays a big role here. Dion was on a stacked team his freshman year (sophomore year too), and JB served him a big slice of humble pie, which was the best thing for Dion and he came to appreciate years later.

Kiyan has a much longer leash this year than Dion did his freshman year. He hasn't figured it out against top flight competition but will. Ideally, he'd be here for three or four years and be the man as an upperclassman. Sounds like two years is the plan.

 

[General20]

Dion wasn’t anything special his freshman year. He showed flashes. Kiyan has shown flashes.

Dion’s exceptional trait was being built like a brick …house. Kiyan needs to bulk up a bit over the next couple years, but otherwise has enough athleticism and skill with the ball to make it, imo. Dion had excellent ballhandling and couldn’t be stopped with a full head of steam; he was never a ‘twitchy’ or ‘springy’ type athlete, though. If his vert was measured, it probably wouldn’t be anything eye catching; he used his craftiness and strength to beat defenders more so than speed or quickness (not to say he was below average in either).

People forget Dion was a disaster as a freshman and so was Fab Melo. Both were out of shape. They had two of the biggest freshman to sophomore jumps of anybody I can think of. Its not a fair competition because its early in the year and Kiyan's numbers are going to go down but right now I bet he averages close to double the points Waiters had as a freshman.

 

[721Comstock]

People forget Dion was a disaster as a freshman and so was Fab Melo. Both were out of shape. They had two of the biggest freshman to sophomore jumps of anybody I can think of. Its not a fair competition because its early in the year and Kiyan's numbers are going to go down but right now I bet he averages close to double the points Waiters had as a freshman.

Yup. 144% THIS.

Now, both Dion & Fab started to show flashes at the end of their Frosh years that indicated they could be good players that next season.

Both of them got themselves mentally and physically ready for their Soph years, and both then dominated.

Kiyan has shown some sporadic play making ability on occasion;
but lately he’s become a black hole of iso ball.
When paired with poor rebounding and meh defense, it’s rough to watch.

 

[dollarbill44]

"a man's got to know his own limitions "

harry callaghan

Doh!

 

[Bulldog04]

This is a huge deal to be on complex and do this. They filmed it at Carousel (yes I still call it that). Lot of positive comments as there should be.

 

[dollarbill44]

I like Kiyan and think he'll be crafty good, but his lack of athleticism is an issue. He's nowhere near as talented or good as Dion was his freshman year. Dion was the number four pick. IMO, Kiyan will be lucky to get drafted due to his athletic limitations.

He wasn't the number 4 pick after his freshman year. Dion was way more athletic than Kiyan as a freshman. He improved a lot, but more importantly, matured a lot from freshman to sophomore year.

 

[CuseTG2003]

He wasn't the number 4 pick after his freshman year. Dion was way more athletic than Kiyan as a freshman. He improved a lot, but more importantly, matured a lot from freshman to sophomore year.

Yep, he was picked fourth after his sophomore year and significant growth/maturity like you said. I think Kiyan can be very good but has a much lower ceiling than Dion and because of that won't be a lottery pick let alone picked fourth after next year IMO.

 

[dollarbill44]

Yep, he was picked fourth after his sophomore year and significant growth/maturity like you said. I think Kiyan can be very good but has a much lower ceiling than Dion and because of that won't be a lottery pick let alone picked fourth after next year IMO.

Fair enough. I dont like to put ceilings on 18 year olds, because they still have so much potential for development.

 

[tbonezone]

just 4 assists in the last 5 games. zero the last 2.