Kyle McCord to NFL Draft

[IthacaMatt]

Is that what he had at SU? A clean pocket?

We had very good pass protection last year. Go look it up. He threw about 6,000 passes (kidding) and only got sacked a couple times a game, on average.

 

[Qbobby]

Yeah I certainly think the inferior conference and Syracuse despite Fran bringing up QBs in the 20th century are factors.

Which is stupid... because ... where was it again that Josh Allen went to college?

 

[SuFTW]

He needs a clean pocket. He is not as athletic as a lot of dual threat guys.

No, he benefits from a clean pocket, but does fine if there are pocket problems.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

This is a common narrative but is not backed by the data

Kyle was ranked 3rd best passing grade under pressure

Kyle was ranked 4th in lowest time to throw (gets it out quick)

He was dead middle of pack for pressure to sack ratio

Pretty good for a guy with the stigma of needing a pristine pocket

Seem like a black and white distinction.

 

[All4SU]

We had very good pass protection last year. Go look it up. He threw about 6,000 passes (kidding) and only got sacked a couple times a game, on average.

True. But as others have suggested,I think that was due to how quickly he was able to read the defense and release the ball.

 

[IthacaMatt]

True. But as others have suggested,I think that was due to how quickly he was able to read the defense and release the ball.

Yes, and that works in his favor at the next level.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Is that what he had at SU? A clean pocket?

We had a first year OL coach whose specialty was pass protection, and we had fewer sacks by a mile than we had the last few years, especially if you look at sacks per attempt.

 

[wfschrec]

We had a first year OL coach whose specialty was pass protection, and we had fewer sacks by a mile than we had the last few years, especially if you look at sacks per attempt.

That is only because McCord made quick reads ... our PFF pass protection scores aren't much to write home about ... the OL was mediocre.

 

[Cheriehoop]

We had very good pass protection last year. Go look it up. He threw about 6,000 passes (kidding) and only got sacked a couple times a game, on average.

Yes we were ranked 34th in the country for least qb sack % - 4.49%. It wasn’t like we had a highly evasive running qb either that other teams may have hidden some of their OL protection deficiencies.

College Football Stats - College FB Team QB Sacked Percentage | TeamRankings.com

College Football qb sacked percentage, by team.

www.teamrankings.com

 

[atlanticuse]

Any reason he seems to have dropped from ~#3 to #6 in the latest big boards?

The explanation hasn’t changed - accuracy-related ie “receivers have to work harder” (and we saw him air mail a bunch of passes this year), but I thought the Shriners game helped him pre-combine

 

[SUskibum]

This is a common narrative but is not backed by the data

Kyle was ranked 3rd best passing grade under pressure

Kyle was ranked 4th in lowest time to throw (gets it out quick)

He was dead middle of pack for pressure to sack ratio

Pretty good for a guy with the stigma of needing a pristine pocket

Since I am in narrative busting mode, here is some data in support of his deep throwing ablities (RPM, velocity, & other arm strength data was already posted showing him around the 95th percentile of todays NFL starters)

All data for passes traveling >20 yards downfield (P5 only):

#1 in Passer rating

#1 in 'big time throws' (big time throw defined as a tight window or under duress etc)

#2 in 'big time throw percentage'

#5 in adjusted completion percentage (this assumes all catchable balls were caught)

#4 in lowest time to throw (even his deep balls were out quick!)

 

[FrancoPizza]

We had very good pass protection last year. Go look it up. He threw about 6,000 passes (kidding) and only got sacked a couple times a game, on average.

Most pockets usually stay clean for the first 2-3 seconds. When receivers couldn’t beat their coverage (Pitt) or routes took too long (Stanford) is when the pocket problems showed up.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Any reason he seems to have dropped from ~#3 to #6 in the latest big boards?

The explanation hasn’t changed - accuracy-related ie “receivers have to work harder” (and we saw him air mail a bunch of passes this year), but I thought the Shriners game helped him pre-combine

I would think interested teams are talking him down.