Lampkin - Earnin' & Burnin', Snappin' Necks & Cashin' Checks

[Doc5120]

LOSS. you score 50 and lose it means nothing. you played 35 minutes and lost. big numbers? not impressed.

So only stats in wins count. Got it. Can't play well in a losing effort. Totally makes sense. My goodness.

 

[CardiacCuse]

has anyone else noticed that Eddie ONLY plays 1 on 1 defense?

he ONLY guards his man and pays attention to nothing else going on the floor...its a bit wild

I wonder if thats what the coaches want him to do...or if he just plays that way and refuses to change?

JB would never have allowed his defensive playing style in a million years...and for good reason

i just watched the Stanford highlights and there were multiple uncontested Stanford layups (just like every game) where eddie literally moved away from the basket as a stanford player dribbles straight to the hoop and scored uncontested

its good he guards his man prtty well...but the center cannot be playing no team defense

team defense from the center is vital for any good defense

i think it would actually make a big difference for the teams defense if eddie would try to get in the way and at least stay near the rim etc

if the coaches want him playing like he does...they are insane

 

[kingtidge]

has anyone else noticed that Eddie ONLY plays 1 on 1 defense?

he ONLY guards his man and pays attention to nothing else going on the floor...its a bit wild

I wonder if thats what the coaches want him to do...or if he just plays that way and refuses to change?

JB would never have allowed his defensive playing style in a million years...and for good reason

i just watched the Stanford highlights and there were multiple uncontested Stanford layups (just like every game) where eddie literally moved away from the basket as a stanford player dribbles straight to the hoop and scored uncontested

its good he guards his man prtty well...but the center cannot be playing no team defense

team defense from the center is vital for any good defense

i think it would actually make a big difference for the teams defense if eddie would try to get in the way and at least stay near the rim etc

if the coaches want him playing like he does...they are insane

Players did what they wanted last year and it seems to be the case again this year, we just have less talent.

I don't know if they are purposely ignoring what Red is asking them to do or it's simply not being coached effectively and directions and concepts are unclear?

Whatever it is, it's not working.

 

[Bulldog04]

Not only Eddie but the entire teams “feel” for defense and where the ball is is quite mind boggling. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team give up so many layups

 

[kingtidge]

Not only Eddie but the entire teams “feel” for defense and where the ball is is quite mind boggling. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team give up so many layups

It's really a hard watch...

We typically have to scratch and claw to the end of every possession clock for any of our points... Then the ball goes the other way and it's in the basket on an uncontested layup within 6-10 seconds on every other opponent possession it seems.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Not only Eddie but the entire teams “feel” for defense and where the ball is is quite mind boggling. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team give up so many layups

I don't think I have ever seen a center under his defensive basket turn away from players driving to the basket, or those receiving passes near the basket, as often as I have seen from Eddie. It's like he is afraid to make a defensive play because he expects to be called for the foul.

 

[Nicknack]

Probably not a popular question, but wouldn't this team do better in the 2-3?

 

[IthacaMatt]

Probably not a popular question, but wouldn't this team do better in the 2-3?

Unless he's still injured, I think one of the biggest mistakes Red has made this year is refusing to play zone, when he did it in the 2nd half of last season to good effect. He has a 7-4 guy who at least doesn't turn away from guys driving the lane. He has five fouls to give, even if you only play him 5 minutes.

I will never forget Patrick Ewing's freshman year in the national championship game against North Carolina. Ewing got called for about 4 goal tending calls in the first 5 minutes of the game. It didn't matter. It set the tone for the rest of the game.

Jeremy McNeil, Conrad McRae, Etan Thomas. Those guys changed games, even when they fouled out in 10-15 minutes of playing time. I'm stupefied that we play such terrible defense, and he almost never tries anything different.

Where's the press? One game for about 10 minutes. Zone? Maybe a couple games for a total of 20 minutes, being generous.

You have to mix up defenses. You have to change things up. That is Rule 1 of coaching - if they are beating you at what you're doing, then change it up, FFS !!!!

 

[CardiacCuse]

Probably not a popular question, but wouldn't this team do better in the 2-3?

no beacuse they have zero awareness and ability to cover for one another

I don't think I have ever seen a center under his defensive basket turn away from players driving to the basket, or those receiving passes near the basket, as often as I have seen from Eddie. It's like he is afraid to make a defensive play because he expects to be called for the foul.

idk what it is...maybe he just wants to stay in the game so he doesnt put himself in position to foul so he can accumulate better stats

he seems like a team player though

he literally plays defense like he only cares about his man and nothing else

Not only Eddie but the entire teams “feel” for defense and where the ball is is quite mind boggling. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team give up so many layups

yeah but the bigs are the ones who clean up mistakes...you dont normally see guards cover for big men on defense so even though the guards like jj and carlos are often turnstiles...its really felt from the bigs more

 

[OttoinGrotto]

i just watched the Stanford highlights and there were multiple uncontested Stanford layups (just like every game) where eddie literally moved away from the basket as a stanford player dribbles straight to the hoop and scored uncontested

Yeah I noticed this last night too. It's wild. Multiple times he even saw the driver, took a step toward the basket, and instead of contesting at the rim moved away and back to his man.

Bottles the mind.

 

[HyattsCuse]

Yeah I noticed this last night too. It's wild. Multiple times he even saw the driver, took a step toward the basket, and instead of contesting at the rim moved away and back to his man.

Bottles the mind.

It was so blatant on a drive early in the game before we scored.

The funny thing is last game against Pitt, he did the opposite on pick and rolls. I even made a post about it. Instead of simply hedging and getting back to his man, he’d stay with the dribbler even though his teammate recovered easily. Eddie’s guy rolled to the basket wide open. Pitt ran the same play to start off each half and several times during the game.

 

[kingtidge]

idk what it is...maybe he just wants to stay in the game so he doesnt put himself in position to foul so he can accumulate better stats

Bingo^^^ I think this is it.

He doesn't want to foul out.

He's a big guy that can't really jump and I think he's a magnet for fouls because of it... and he's a senior enough player to know if he tries to do things he can't, he's gonna get the whistle.

Even when he is there under the basket and standing with his arms straight up with feet planted, often, faster players are driving into him and bouncing off him yard-saling and still getting the whistle.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Yeah I noticed this last night too. It's wild. Multiple times he even saw the driver, took a step toward the basket, and instead of contesting at the rim moved away and back to his man.

Bottles the mind.

I've been saying this since early in the season. All the more reason I was clamoring for McLeod to at least get a rotation or two.

 

[tbonezone]

i mean how does a player his size play 38 minutes in the middle and commit just one foul when the other team is basically running layup drills ? he has no interest in defense.

 

[CardiacCuse]

i mean how does a player his size play 38 minutes in the middle and commit just one foul when the other team is basically running layup drills ? he has no interest in defense.

this we know

its possible that he is simply playing the way the coaches want him to bc there are no other centers on reds "12 deep" roster

what i am curious about is what his instructions are on defense

 

[CardiacCuse]

Yeah I noticed this last night too. It's wild. Multiple times he even saw the driver, took a step toward the basket, and instead of contesting at the rim moved away and back to his man.

Bottles the mind.

he doesnt even have to block the shot just get in front of the driver and make it difficult (instead of wide open layup line)

 

[kingtidge]

he doesnt even have to block the shot just get in front of the driver and make it difficult (instead of wide open layup line)

Guessing he might do a bit more of that if McLeod was giving viable minutes at center as hoped.

Perplexing what the story is with him. You'd think one of the beat reporters could ask the question and get some info. Assuming his recuperation did not go as planned and still has issues?? Who knows...

 

[CuseFan]

Unless he's still injured, I think one of the biggest mistakes Red has made this year is refusing to play zone, when he did it in the 2nd half of last season to good effect. He has a 7-4 guy who at least doesn't turn away from guys driving the lane. He has five fouls to give, even if you only play him 5 minutes.

I will never forget Patrick Ewing's freshman year in the national championship game against North Carolina. Ewing got called for about 4 goal tending calls in the first 5 minutes of the game. It didn't matter. It set the tone for the rest of the game.

Jeremy McNeil, Conrad McRae, Etan Thomas. Those guys changed games, even when they fouled out in 10-15 minutes of playing time. I'm stupefied that we play such terrible defense, and he almost never tries anything different.

Where's the press? One game for about 10 minutes. Zone? Maybe a couple games for a total of 20 minutes, being generous.

You have to mix up defenses. You have to change things up. That is Rule 1 of coaching - if they are beating you at what you're doing, then change it up, FFS !!!!

Been thinking the same thing - why don't we play zone for 10-15 min, and stick the 7'4" guy in the middle. If nothing else to disrupt the constant giveup of layups.

Ironic, as we used to criticize JB for stubbornly sticking to the zone and not throwing in some man to man now and then. Now it's the opposite.

 

[tbonezone]

Sun Tzu encourages leaders in the ART OF WAR to be flexible, to adapt their strategy to the ever-changing circumstances of the battlefield. Sun Tzu states, “Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night . switching up defenses is weapon not a weakness.