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Who is that on Lake Michigan?
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Who is that on Lake Michigan?
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Northeast it ain't.
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Conference realignment day:
Delaware officially to A10 for MLAX and ASun for WLAX.
Delaware officially to A10 for MLAX and ASun for WLAX.
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Notre Dame AD: ACC caused 'permanent damage'
Notre Dame's AD ripped the ACC after its CFP snub, saying the conference that houses almost every Fighting Irish team has caused "permanent damage" to the relationship.
Instead of the ACC looking for a sixth team, could it someday soon be looking for a fifth team?
Obviously, the ND AD was fired up and emotional when he said all this, and ND’s contract with the ACC is crazy complicated, but it makes you legitimately wonder if ND could be looking for a new conference soon.
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I mean, if I had my way, the deal wouldn't have happened in the first place. But I understand why it was done.Notre Dame AD: ACC caused 'permanent damage'
Notre Dame's AD ripped the ACC after its CFP snub, saying the conference that houses almost every Fighting Irish team has caused "permanent damage" to the relationship.www.espn.com
Instead of the ACC looking for a sixth team, could it someday soon be looking for a fifth team?
Obviously, the ND AD was fired up and emotional when he said all this, and ND’s contract with the ACC is crazy complicated, but it makes you legitimately wonder if ND could be looking for a new conference soon.
ND's Olympic sports fall under the same GOR that all other conference members signed. That doesn't expire until 2036.
If Notre Dame wants to buy themselves out of the contract, I guess they could. Money well spent? I don't know. Could they test the GOR in court? They could. I'm sure they would love the attention, since it seems to be what they thrive on.
But if I had to guess, I'd say they will be ACC members (Olympic sports) until 2036. Then all bets are off.
There might not even be an ACC at that point...
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Other than Men's hoops, there is no significant money generated by Olympic sports. The cost of the buy out or a lawsuit is likely not worth the effort. If the ACC falls apart, UND is likely free. If the ACC stays intact, ND probably stays, at least through the end of the current deal. The only real reason for ND to pull the Olympic sports teams from the ACC is to join ND football to another conference. But then that triggers ND's contractual duty to join the ACC...
the acc blinked/capitulated/settled lawsuits with clemson and fsu in march to greatly reduce the exit fees/future rights. conicident to new cfp, b1g and sec (and nd/nbc) contracts in 2030-31, the exit for full members would be $75m ($175 now, down $18m per year) by then.
plus if you pay the exit, you walk with your media rights, which was the largest deterrent previously.
nd as a partial member would be looking at a fraction of any of those numbers, even before negotiations/their own lawsuit.
of course, then they'd have to find a home for their sports, with or without the football team.
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I tend to agree. Do we know what their buyout is? I'll try to look later.
But if they want to maintain their independent FB status, I'm sure the Big East would take them in a heartbeat.
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Info is hard to come by. Or, at least, info you can trust.
But from what I can glean, leaving both the FB and Olympic sports contracts would appear to cost between $100M and $120M. From what I could find, exiting the FB partnership would cost $50M-$55M. That would leave the Olympic sports buyout to be $45M-$65M.
I don't know if that latter buyout number makes any sense or not.
my math is their acc payout is around ~45% of full members, set to go down marginally with the big new cfp contract. that's $80m now and $40 in 5 years, either is chump change for them. add in a buyout possibly of the 12 year contract they signed with clemson.
honestly, it's tough to figure why they wouldn't go/haven't gone to the b1g by this point. they really like sitting at the big boy table next to the commissioners to set up rules a bit too much. and guaranteeing they're prime viewing for brand. nbc worked into the b1g's recent contracts, it should be doable. instead, they play lightning rod, victim, independent hero and send their 20 some odd teams all over the country.
maybe this is a false flag, maybe not. for sure they'd have to get over their narcissistic need to be in the limelight first.
