LeQuint Allen is Back

[Willy75]

It is an interesting read. Being a private institution LA has very limited rights. Provided the procedures are followed it provides very little arguments for success. There is one section that seemed it might be successful.
“contrary to petitioners' contention, we conclude that the sanctions imposed on each of them are not "so disproportionate to the offense, in the light of all the circumstances, as to be shocking to one's sense of fairness" (Matter of Pell v Board of Educ. of Union Free School Dist. No. 1 of Towns of Scarsdale & Mamaroneck, Westchester County, 34 NY2d 222, 233 [1974] [internal quotation marks omitted]; see Powers, 25 NY3d at 218; Lampert, 116 AD3d at 1294).”
It seems like LA could argue based on all the circumstances that is “shocking to one’s of fairness.” Being suspended for two semesters for throwing one punch in self defense shocks one’s sense of fairnes

I might be able to stomach the arrogance if the University was ranked in the top 30, academically. But, that's obviously not the case. Well, Newhouse is ranked somewhere in the middle 30's, so there's that, I guess.

The Cantor legacy.

 

[Willy75]

There’s nothing to play out. There’s no trial, it’s usually a no argument motion. The sides submit their documentation and the court decides

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe one of the tests for a preliminary injunction in NY (already granted here) is whether the court believes the moving party will prevail on the merits.
The Fourth Department decision is discouraging, it does contain several points LA could argue differentiate his case. And the plaintiffs there were less sympathetic than him.

 

[SU68]

I'm not sure that the NCAA would make an exception for a kid transferring due to a disciplinary matter (despite the consensus that the punishment doesn't fit the crime).

The NCAA has already established precedence in the UNC FB/BB cheating scandal that it isn't concerned unless the "crime" is sports related.

 

[OburgOrange]

 

[SWC75]

In what business does anyone comment or automatically react to pending legal cases? If he gets his suspension shortened it is going to happen behind the scenes. The chancellor will end up saying nothing.

The announcement that the suspension has been reduced will be his statement because we'll know who reduced it.

 

[NYCCuse826]

I might be able to stomach the arrogance if the University was ranked in the top 30, academically. But, that's obviously not the case. Well, Newhouse is ranked somewhere in the middle 30's, so there's that, I guess.

I thought you were kidding about Newhouse. It used to be #1 in the nation. How did that happen? This was a selling point for SU in admissions.

 

[Cuse'91]

I thought you were kidding about Newhouse. It used to be #1 in the nation. How did that happen? This was a selling point for SU in admissions.

Not positive, but remember reading about a 40% turnover in Newhouse professors a while back. A bunch of long standing, well respected teachers gone, replaced by a bunch of newbies, maybe?
The 46% acceptance rate shocked me.

 

[FreakTalksAboutSU]

I thought you were kidding about Newhouse. It used to be #1 in the nation. How did that happen? This was a selling point for SU in admissions.

Communications is very broad.

My understanding is that Syracuse has long been, and remains, a top 3 or so journalism school, and arguably the #1 broadcast and digital journalism school (and those stats still hold roughly based on a quick check). As far as general communications, I don't think it has been, or has touted itself, quite at that level for a while, although my understanding is it is still a top 20-25 or so school overall in that regard.

It's still an elite school, but that exceptionalism has narrowed some.

 

[MSOrange]

 

[Cusefan0307]

I might be able to stomach the arrogance if the University was ranked in the top 30, academically. But, that's obviously not the case. Well, Newhouse is ranked somewhere in the middle 30's, so there's that, I guess.

It still is. It’s ranked 28 as of 2023 according to Niche. Google is your friend.. Jeezus some of the fables that take a life of their own here.

 

[DoctorBombay]

You're confusing things. The chancellor has nothing to do with the decision. At this point I think he's muzzled because of lawyers.

The process that punished Allen has been in place going back to at least Buzz Shaw.

Even further back to Melvin Eggers, who preceded Buzz. Fact is, incidents occurred back then but the reactions were vastly different. If you got into a fight and no one was seriously injured, win or lose, everyone just moved on.
It rarely if ever made it to the student board in the first place, but yes- they've always had a reputation of being arse holes.

 

[sabach]

It is an interesting read. Being a private institution LA has very limited rights. Provided the procedures are followed it provides very little arguments for success. There is one section that seemed it might be successful.
“contrary to petitioners' contention, we conclude that the sanctions imposed on each of them are not "so disproportionate to the offense, in the light of all the circumstances, as to be shocking to one's sense of fairness" (Matter of Pell v Board of Educ. of Union Free School Dist. No. 1 of Towns of Scarsdale & Mamaroneck, Westchester County, 34 NY2d 222, 233 [1974] [internal quotation marks omitted]; see Powers, 25 NY3d at 218; Lampert, 116 AD3d at 1294).”
It seems like LA could argue based on all the circumstances that is “shocking to one’s of fairness.” Being suspended for two semesters for throwing one punch in self defense shocks one’s sense of fairness.

This was the reason that I said earlier in the thread that this is going to be a tough case for LeQuint. And even if SU reduces the suspension to one semester, it takes him out of the football season.

 

[Chris02M]

While the portal is closed

There are special circumstances that you can enter the portal at any point

I believe that Lequints case would meet the requirements to enter the portal currently

Yes, but anything ncaa related is slow to come down for our university

 

[Cuse'91]

It still is. It’s ranked 28 as of 2023 according to Niche. Google is your friend.. Jeezus some of the fables that take a life of their own here.

College Factual Ranking:

 

[djorange1989]

We need 84 or more of these tweets from his teammates, as well as continued support from spouses of staff members, since staff members can’t say anything with litigation pending. Keep the pressure on

 

[007]

Just a quick thank you to those who have provided legal opinions grounded in actual knowledge.

 

[dasher]

College Factual Ranking:
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What is that 38th in reference to? Newhouse or the University as a whole? Because I will sign up for 38th right now. We dropped to about 60 in U.S. News and world reports. I just googled and got 62.

 

[Cuse'91]

What is that 38th in reference to? Newhouse or the University as a whole? Because I will sign up for 38th right now. We dropped to about 60 in U.S. News and world reports.

Communications Schools. Presuming that Newhouse, unless we have another Communications school on campus. We're #62 in overall universities.

 

[JRHEETER]

While SU is simultaneously rail roading an African American student out of school with a kangaroo court using legal standards of evidence and proof which are not even close to fair and which would be laughed at by any reasonable legal mind. You can't make this stuff up.

I encourage you all to comment on that post about Lequint

Keep this out in front.

The push can’t die, that’s what Syracuse U is hoping for

 

[dasher]

I encourage you all to comment on that post about Lequint

Keep this out in front.

The push can’t die, that’s what Syracuse U is hoping for

I warned of this yesterday. I don't think we have to worry about it though. The momentum
is rolling. It's out of anyone's control now. There is a court case. There is national publicity.
If I was a betting man, and I am, I would bet that Allen plays this season at Syracuse University.
I also don't have any knowledge, inside or otherwise, about this. JMHO

 

[Cusefan0307]

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[DocFlanders]

I warned of this yesterday. I don't think we have to worry about it though. The momentum
is rolling. It's out of anyone's control now. There is a court case. There is national publicity.
If I was a betting man, and I am, I would bet that Allen plays this season at Syracuse University.
I also don't have any knowledge, inside or otherwise, about this. JMHO

if he doesn't the whole team should portal...joking...kind of...

 

[Cusefan0307]

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Yeah I think that’s all communications which includes majors outside of Newhouse and yes I am being a bit snarky, but I’ve never heard of that website ever.

 

[FreakTalksAboutSU]

Syracuse, all in, is likely a top 20-25 school for all communications. That site seems very low and I really dont know it at all. Other sites have it squarely in the 20s. But I reiterate, for journalism and specifically broadcast and digital, Syracuse remains in the top 5, if not #1.

 

[FreakTalksAboutSU]

Regarding the admin being able to anything - I find it hard to believe that current and former players, coaches wives, and other people connected to the school and the program (and who likely know a lot more about the dynamics there than we do) are so aggressively lobbying on social media simply for the courts.