Let's Talk About FSU

[pearl31]

Ken Pom would disagree.

Yep, and allowing 75 or more points in 5 of their 10 ACC games might might just contradict Kenny in this case :noidea:

 

[andyw715]

Some In-Depth Facts on FSU:

• Against Zone so far this year they are "average" shooting 164-391 (41.9%) and rank in the 43rd percentile compared to others teams in division one against zone.
  
• In transition, they are "excellent" shooting 123-184 (60%) and have totaled 491 points on the year in transition compared to their 1,224 points in the half court
• Malik Beasley is Excellent shooting 42-92 when declared as "Spotting up". We will have to make him put the ball on the floor.
• In the short shot clock situations (<4 seconds) FSU is poor shooting 16-68 (23.5%) and 4-41 jump shooting wise late in shot clock. So hopefully we dont see any late BS threes per usual
• Spotting up as a team FSU is 144-374 (.385) and that is "good" so they are definitely competent as a spot up shooting team.
• Although, as a three point shooting team, they are 108-335 (.322) Which is below average so hopefully they do not come in raining threes left and right.
• Fun Fact about FSU, they shoot better being "guarded" (.345) compared to being "unguarded" (.333)

Speaking of transition; at the end of January we had 4 game run of not allowing a transition bucket. Is that run still ongoing?

 

[FrancoPizza]

Yep, and allowing 75 or more points in 5 of their 10 ACC games might might just contradict Kenny in this case :noidea:

Right, because every game has the same number of possessions. Got it.

 

[pearl31]

Right, because every game has the same number of possessions. Got it.

Right, because that's what I said. Have you watched Florida St play this year - or too busy regurgitating Kenny's math?

 

[Jasoncuse]

Speaking of transition; at the end of January we had 4 game run of not allowing a transition bucket. Is that run still ongoing?

I thought GT had scored but I guess not:


Not sure about VT, haven't found anything on that. Allen had a few drives on a secondary break beating our defense back, so I'm not sure if that's considered a fast break or not.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Right, because that's what I said. Have you watched Florida St play this year - or too busy regurgitating Kenny's math?

I'm saying the stats don't lie and are based on Florida State's entire body of work... not just the handful of times you've seen them play. It's just plain lazy to cite points scored - in a vacuum - as any measure of a team's defensive ability.

 

[pearl31]

I'm saying the stats don't lie and are based on Florida State's entire body of work... not just the handful of times you've seen them play. It's just plain lazy to cite points scored - in a vacuum - as any measure of a team's defensive ability.

Hmmm, yeah, how about this - I've watched them, on multiple occasions, play matador defense against and allow way too many points to a wide array of offensively questionable teams (Hofstra, Ohio, Clemson, and NC St to name a few). Their approach is clearly one that promotes scoring as many points as possible with ball security and defense being secondary concerns. And yeah, more possessions per game are certainly a result of that.

(pssst, kenpom's "stats" aren't always reliable for truly assessing a team - sometimes they're flawed!)

 

[FrancoPizza]

Hmmm, yeah, how about this - I've watched them, on multiple occasions, play matador defense against and allow way too many points to a wide array of offensively questionable teams (Hofstra, Ohio, Clemson, and NC St to name a few). Their approach is clearly one that promotes scoring as many points as possible with ball security and defense being secondary concerns. And yeah, more possessions per game are certainly a result of that.

(pssst, kenpom's "stats" aren't always reliable for truly assessing a team - sometimes they're flawed!)

Well, stats be damned I hope you're right. We're a lot more fun to watch when we're scoring with aplomb.

 

[orangefog]

Well, stats be damned I hope you're right. We're a lot more fun to watch when we're scoring with aplomb.

Yes, and I think our defense can make them uncomfortable, or at least make them take more time than they are accustomed to.

 

[Niastri]

Do they have any good wins?

Since everybody else answered your question, I will merely scold you for lazy posting and remind you that Google is now a verb.

Unless of course you were being rhetorical, in which case you probably don't suck as bad as my initial impression.

 

[We Are Syracuse]

Hamilton doesn't have a clue how to coach offense against a zone IMO. With the talent on that team they should have a lot better record. I'm not guaranteeing a win, but I'll be dissappointed if we lose.

Hamilton is a bad coach. I agree. He can recruit but he can't coach a lick

 

[bevosu]

Since everybody else answered your question, I will merely scold you for lazy posting and remind you that Google is now a verb.

Unless of course you were being rhetorical, in which case you probably don't suck as bad as my initial impression.

Not a classy response Niastri.

 

[kirbivore]

Play them twice. Can't get swept by a team that's in the bubble chase with SU

 

[Niastri]

Not a classy response Niastri.

Yeah, came out less tongue in cheek than intended. My bad

 

[NineOneSeven]

Hoping we come out strong from the start similar to ND. We squeaked by GT and Va Tech and are due for another strong shooting performance from our backcourt (early on).