That is great, I also have first hand knowledge of several former players that idolize the guy and admire him dearly, it depends who you talk too, I am not going to sit here and tell you the guy is saint because he isn't but he has done a lot of good in his life too. Not wise to paint with such a brood brush, like I said, I am sure the info you have is legit and makes Holtz look bad maybe even really bad but I have first hand knowledge and have talked to people that think the world of him, all who were ex players of Holtz.