Luckiest team I’ve ever seen win it all

[Cusefan0307]

They did finish #1 in KenPom. Hard to argue they weren’t the best team. They would be favored against last years Nova team according to their ratings.

 

[Eric15]

When you get a high level seed in the tourney year after year (like UVA has over the past 5 seasons), eventually it's going to all come together and you'll start to cash in Final Fours and titles.

 

[Brooky03]

And they had the maturity and composure to get through all of that. Which must be nice.

Jerome was super clutch when he double dribbled against Auburn in the final seconds (he was not fouled before that). Also very clutch and composed of Guy to foul Moretti. Must've known the ref would ignore it and award UVA the ball after they knocked it out of bounds.

 

[Brooky03]

They did finish #1 in KenPom. Hard to argue they weren’t the best team. They would be favored against last years Nova team according to their ratings.

Kenpom is historically not excellent at ranking teams.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Kenpom is historically not excellent at ranking teams.

Except he is. 10 out of the last 15 years his number 1 team has won the title.

 

[Dinkyspond]

He was tremendously annoying.

That was his only contribution. He was a bench scrub.

 

[Brooky03]

Except he is. 10 out of the last 15 years his number 1 team has won the title.

Ugh. Not getting into it today. Sure, you're right

 

[BuffOrange]

Someone on twitter charted their W probability at 9%, 4%, and 12% at it's lowest point the last three games. That's pretty gross. They didn't look that great the first three games either.
And ya avoiding the 1-2 seeds was nice. Although if you looked at Kenpom even before the tournament, Tech and Auburn were real teams; it wasn't a joke of a path like Uconn usually gets or Michigan last year.
And people need to get over the Purdue game. It was a road game and a dude banked in a 3 on a heat check for the lead; not to mention the Clark pass was insanely cool.

 

[gilardino]

UCONN 2014 says hold my drink

 

[Orangemen]

The trail of utterly destroyed fanbases that they left in their wake has to be unprecedented.

Fans of Purdue, Auburn, and TT will remember these losses forever.

It's not like these schools are Duke or Kentucky, and can count on being there again every year. These schools may not be back at these heights for some time.

 

[Eric15]

The trail of utterly destroyed fanbases that they left in their wake has to be unprecedented.

Fans of Purdue, Auburn, and TT will remember these losses forever.

It's not like these schools are Duke or Kentucky, and can count on being there again every year. These schools may not be back at these heights for some time.

I feel like Auburn fans will forget as soon as spring football starts.

 

[Bayside44]

Jerome was super clutch when he double dribbled against Auburn in the final seconds (he was not fouled before that). Also very clutch and composed of Guy to foul Moretti. Must've known the ref would ignore it and award UVA the ball after they knocked it out of bounds.

They hit big shots and made huge passes while down in their run under a minute to go in so many games. No one was screaming about a double dribble in the Auburn game.

 

[Brooky03]

They hit big shots and made huge passes while down in their run under a minute to go in so many games. No one was screaming about a double dribble in the Auburn game.

Whether people were screaming about it or not, he made a bad basketball play in the deciding seconds. That's not composed.

Guy's corner 3 to get the Auburn lead down to 1? That was clutch. Guy making 3 FT's as an 82% FT shooter? Not clutch, just what he's statistically most likely to do, regardless of time on the clock.

Guy fouling Moretti as a bigger help defender is cutting him off from the hoop? Bad basketball play. Not composed.

Is it considered clutch/composed if you just do your ordinary stuff but with less time on the clock? Or does it require something extraordinary? Virginia a did a lot of very ordinary things. And not in the way that great teams make great plays look ordinary. Just ordinary ordinary things.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I really don’t get why people are trying to delegitimize UVA. Did they not have enough Zion’s for people?

 

[samspann1]

I really don’t get why people are trying to delegitimize UVA. Did they not have enough Zion’s for people?

I don't get why so many here are pumping them up.

Are they the new Washington or something?

 

[Cowtown]

Whether people were screaming about it or not, he made a bad basketball play in the deciding seconds. That's not composed.

Guy's corner 3 to get the Auburn lead down to 1? That was clutch. Guy making 3 FT's as an 82% FT shooter? Not clutch, just what he's statistically most likely to do, regardless of time on the clock.

Guy fouling Moretti as a bigger help defender is cutting him off from the hoop? Bad basketball play. Not composed.

Is it considered clutch/composed if you just do your ordinary stuff but with less time on the clock? Or does it require something extraordinary? Virginia a did a lot of very ordinary things. And not in the way that great teams make great plays look ordinary. Just ordinary ordinary things.

Games are not a series of unconnected segments. You don't win the first half or the first quarter or the first inning. Or this play or that play. To assess a player's role you have to look at how he functioned within the team. What did Carsen Edwards win? Nothing, because Guy not only hit several answering threes, but led the team past Edwards' bewildering display, inspiring them with his defensive and rebounding play.

 

[Brooky03]

I really don’t get why people are trying to delegitimize UVA. Did they not have enough Zion’s for people?

This happens with champions when the numbers don't match the eye test. Virginia lost 3 games all season and won the Title. That should put them in the conversation for top 15 champion of all-time, maybe. Or top 25, or whatever; near the top at least.

But people watching them play never really walked away with the impression that they watched a phenomenal team. If we polled college bball fans, they'd put a lot of less stellar champions (on paper) ahead of this Virginia team.

 

[Bayside44]

Whether people were screaming about it or not, he made a bad basketball play in the deciding seconds. That's not composed.

Guy's corner 3 to get the Auburn lead down to 1? That was clutch. Guy making 3 FT's as an 82% FT shooter? Not clutch, just what he's statistically most likely to do, regardless of time on the clock.

Guy fouling Moretti as a bigger help defender is cutting him off from the hoop? Bad basketball play. Not composed.

Is it considered clutch/composed if you just do your ordinary stuff but with less time on the clock? Or does it require something extraordinary? Virginia a did a lot of very ordinary things. And not in the way that great teams make great plays look ordinary. Just ordinary ordinary things.

Guy's an 82% foul shooter, so if you want to split hairs he had a 50/50 change at one of those.

The play on Morelli was a loose ball three guys were going at. Considering there was no call and he didn't shove the guy to the ground, it worked.

Hunter's shot, the pass to him down by 3 by Jerome when the easy thing to do was take the layup, clutch.

Crazy unusual things happen at the end of so many of these tournament games and Virginia really kept their head on straight throughout it.

 

[Cowtown]

I don't get why so many here are pumping them up.

Are they the new Washington or something?

Because they answered the bell every time. They stepped up and made big plays when there was considerable pressure and no room for failure. They refused to die in several games when there were several opportunities to do so. It was a truly remarkable run.

 

[samspann1]

Because they answered the bell every time. They refused to die in several games when there were several opportunities to do so. It was a truly remarkable run.

They had a lot of help. Just IMHO, of course.

 

[Cusefan0307]

This happens with champions when the numbers don't match the eye test. Virginia lost 3 games all season and won the Title. That should put them in the conversation for top 15 champion of all-time, maybe. Or top 25, or whatever; near the top at least.

But people watching them play never really walked away with the impression that they watched a phenomenal team. If we polled college bball fans, they'd put a lot of less stellar champions (on paper) ahead of this Virginia team.

So who was the best team in your eyes?

 

[rrlbees]

Guy making 3 FT's as an 82% FT shooter? Not clutch, just what he's statistically most likely to do, regardless of time on the clock.

An 82% FT shooter has a 55% chance of making all 3.

 

[Cowtown]

When a team make huge plays at critical times game after game after game, when does it stop being "luck?"

 

[cuse10]

I don't get why so many here are pumping them up.

Are they the new Washington or something?

BeCaUsE tHeY pLaY bAsKeTbAlL tHe RiGhT wAy

There's a lot of woe is me and masochism on this website from people who loathe Syracuse in secret. This team won because they had a lot of breaks go their way. Outside of Gardner Webb, they didn't look like the best team of the tournament. If Purdue wasn't ball watching on the last possession and Auburn didn't get screwed over, they're not playing last night.

 

[Fly Rodder]

Remember UVA plays one of, if not the slowest tempo game in college basketball. They're not about running teams out of the gym. Their wins are about keeping just ahead as opponents can never seem to catch up. It's deliberate and methodical.