Maliq Brown D.O. Article

[Sherman20]

The one that stings is saying he didn't receive offers out of high school from "upper echelon" schools. I don't know if the author is paraphrasing from him or his parents or adding his own perspective but it is blatantly saying we are not upper echelon. It hurts mightily but it is true. This is a good article. The student paper does a good job of scooping Syracuse.com sometimes and this is an example. The DO got a lot of people to talk for this article, it's obvious the author did a lot of digging.

Maybe he meant he didn’t get offers from any other upper echelon schools besides Syracuse. Lol, that’s what I will choose to believe.

 

[Scooch]

Duke is the biggest powerhouse in the freaking sport. We are a team struggling to stay afloat. There is no scenario where he would be getting more personal glory here next year! I don't think he is a bad person, and certainly do not think he is a bad basketball player, but I am a freaking Syracuse fan and Duke has been our most hated conference rival along with UNC! I will never be rational on this. If you transfer from Cuse to Duke you better be getting chirped by every Cuse fan in the world!! This would be like going to GTown back in the day! Every person who has ever put on a duke jersey can suck it! And that includes Maliq!!

So you don't know how much NIL money he's getting? You can just admit that. It's fine, I don't know either.

Also, there is no SU-Duke rivalry at all. They're a conference opponent, the same as Wake Forest and SMU. It's not in any way like someone transfering to G'town in the 80s.

 

[Scooch]

We are are to Duke and UNC what BC is to us. There is no rivalry there.

But, but, but we made t-shirts!!!

 

[Scooch]

Saying someone is a coward and saying someone did something cowardly are two different things.

I think you're making a distinction without a difference and trying to mitigate the harshness of your characterization.

Let me ask, what do you call someone who did something cowardly?

 

[orange79]

Let me ask, what do you call someone who did something cowardly?

Maliq Brown?

{ducks}

 

[Col. Bleep]

We are are to Duke and UNC what BC is to us. There is no rivalry there.

Well put.
It is so preposterous to think that Duke fans think anything special about SU.

That Orange fans seriously believe Duke is a rival in the G-town sense is also ridiculous.
We really may want to beat them...but so does every other team they play.

 

[sufan59]

I think you're making a distinction without a difference and trying to mitigate the harshness of your characterization.

Let me ask, what do you call someone who did something cowardly?

Reminder that these takes are based on the article I read in this thread. Explain to me how this isn’t a cowardly move. There is courage in what Maliq Brown did going to a new place in an extremely competitive environment. But I read this article and see that he loved it here and the staff wanted him back. His teammates leaving and the changed dynamic leads to him entering the portal not even sticking by for this season. He still has another year of eligibility. Again I personally could make the same exact decision he did even given these details. But reading the article, I come away thinking that he didn’t want to continue working through the changing dynamic even though he loved it here and the staff wanted him to stay.

 

[Dinkyspond]

Well put.
It is so preposterous to think that Duke fans think anything special about SU.

That Orange fans seriously believe Duke is a rival in the G-town sense is also ridiculous.
We really may want to beat them...but so does every other team they play.

it's only a rivalry if you beat them, our record since joining the ACC is abysmal against Duke

 

[djcon57]

Explain to me how this isn’t a cowardly move. There is courage in what Maliq Brown did going to a new place in an extremely competitive environment.

You literally just explained it

 

[DoctahLexus]

When we get good again, the hostility towards the top teams will return from all of you and you will act like it never left. Right now it is crazy dark times with all these fans having their tail between their legs. Even 4-5 years ago there would be nothing but hatred for Duke. Now because we suck I guess we just have to bow down to talented teams.

 

[CuseCPT]

I think the last time we were ranked in the regular season Maliq was 10 so I can see why he felt he didn’t get offers from top echelon schools.

 

[djcon57]

When we get good again, the hostility towards the top teams will return from all of you and you will act like it never left. Right now it is crazy dark times with all these fans having their tail between their legs. Even 4-5 years ago there would be nothing but hatred for Duke. Now because we suck I guess we just have to bow down to talented teams.

So I’m not sure what you are looking for, who’s bowing down? you want me to call Brown a loser or a coward because he doesn’t play for my alma mater as we currently have like 10 guys who didn’t start at Syracuse to begin with?

It’s unhinged. People transferring is part of the current system. Is what it is.

 

[Jake]

The reality is that had Maliq stayed he’d be starting now, and would probably have gotten starter minutes since Thanksgiving.

 

[djcon57]

The reality is that had Maliq stayed he’d be starting now, and would probably have gotten starter minutes since Thanksgiving.

And the reality is, even if it’s true, he didn’t want any part of our program. That’s a reality we need to address

 

[Scooch]

Reminder that these takes are based on the article I read in this thread. Explain to me how this isn’t a cowardly move. There is courage in what Maliq Brown did going to a new place in an extremely competitive environment. But I read this article and see that he loved it here and the staff wanted him back. His teammates leaving and the changed dynamic leads to him entering the portal not even sticking by for this season. He still has another year of eligibility. Again I personally could make the same exact decision he did even given these details. But reading the article, I come away thinking that he didn’t want to continue working through the changing dynamic even though he loved it here and the staff wanted him to stay.

He liked it at SU until circumstances changed dramatically. So he found a better place for himself.

What courage has to do with any of that is totally beyond me.

I’m done, man

 

[Scooch]

The reality is that had Maliq stayed he’d be starting now, and would probably have gotten starter minutes since Thanksgiving.

That he wouldn’t have been starting from the jump might be a sign that this program is really messed up.

 

[Scooch]

When we get good again, the hostility towards the top teams will return from all of you and you will act like it never left. Right now it is crazy dark times with all these fans having their tail between their legs. Even 4-5 years ago there would be nothing but hatred for Duke. Now because we suck I guess we just have to bow down to talented teams.

Bow down? Tail between our legs?

Dude, go hate on Duke all you want. No one is stopping you.

But Duke is not a rival. It’s a great program that we’ve had a couple heated games with a decade ago.

 

[HyattsCuse]

I have to laugh that there’s all this discussion as well as the article itself about the reasons Maliq left and I have yet to see a comment (or missed it) that for a guy like Maliq who probably isn’t seeing the NBA, he’ll also be getting his college degree from an elite academic university.

This is still college basketball. A Duke degree and the network he’ll develop will come in handy down the road. I would hope that was a factor in his decision.

 

[DoctahLexus]

So I’m not sure what you are looking for, who’s bowing down? you want me to call Brown a loser or a coward because he doesn’t play for my alma mater as we currently have like 10 guys who didn’t start at Syracuse to begin with?

It’s unhinged. People transferring is part of the current system. Is what it is.

Just give him some crap for going to Duke! In conference rival or at least the closest thing to it. What other team draws crowds like the old days? We beat them at least 4 times off the top of my head. We played them close plenty of others. Coach K, all those POS players people love to hate, hating Duke is just a normal thing for being a non-Duke fan, even if you are not in their conference and have a history! I don’t think Maliq is a legit bad person or something, but if you have any love for cuse they should be off your list of teams to transfer to. I will be booing maliq tomorrow without question

 

[Nicknack]

This whole coward talk is so stupid. Talk about going down a rabbit hole.

One thing that I can definitely agree with though is this-

Every person who has ever put on a duke jersey can suck it! And that includes Maliq!!

I don't have any ill will towards Brown. He left. Wish he hadn't, but he did. That said, it was his choice to put on another team's jersey. It's mine to now root against him. I hope he has an awful game tomorrow night.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I spent the entire summer arguing with people who thought Lampkin would be an upgrade just cause he was big. Fun times.

Bottom line is we need to keep players like Maliq if we ever plan on being good again.

 

[DanielA]

What bag? Someone tell me specifically how much NIL money he's getting from Duke.

He'd certainly get a lot more PERSONAL glory playing 35+ minutes a game at SU and being the guy who headlines our promotional material. That's what the kids all want, right? Personal attention over team success?

Criticizing Brown is cuckoo-bananas. He left because almost everyone else left, and he had a chance to go play for the premiere program in the country and pursue a championship. What a worm, right?!

He got significantly more money to go to duke than play at Syracuse that’s not a discussion.

 

[DanielA]

Just give him some crap for going to Duke! In conference rival or at least the closest thing to it. What other team draws crowds like the old days? We beat them at least 4 times off the top of my head. We played them close plenty of others. Coach K, all those POS players people love to hate, hating Duke is just a normal thing for being a non-Duke fan, even if you are not in their conference and have a history! I don’t think Maliq is a legit bad person or something, but if you have any love for cuse they should be off your list of teams to transfer to. I will be booing maliq tomorrow without question

He deserves it and what you said is right.

 

[Sbucketball]

The reality is that had Maliq stayed he’d be starting now, and would probably have gotten starter minutes since Thanksgiving.

Red would have been way better off starting Donnie/Maliq at the 4/5 and having a traditional big defensive center off the bench, and then dump the 800k into a PG. Different team. Oh well.

 

[BronsonCuse]

I feel like multiple things can be right. Maliq leaving for Duke is unquestionably a better decision for him if we wanted to win. Way better roster, gets to play with NBA draft picks, be part of a championship run etc.. It also really sucks for any Syracuse fan confronting the reality that 1. going to Duke is night and day different and better than staying at Syracuse (who we all want to be a blue blood program) when it comes to winning and 2. that we don't have to be thrilled that he did that. I think questioning his character because of this is way too far. We are fans and they are players. Asking them to have the same loyalty as us is a faulty premise.