Marek might have the highest basketball IQ of any player we’ve had since either Moten or Sherm.
They were all great, but not higher than Moten. And Moten wasn’t higher than the all-time best: Sherman.I'd argue that Andy Rautins, Brandon Triche, Michael Gbinije and GMac belong in the conversation of high basketball IQ.
Pearl, Sherman Douglas, Leo Rautins, DC, Moten, Laz Sims, Allen Griffin, late Conrad McCrae...so many high-IQ guys in the program's history. What stands out with Marek is how young he is, and how quickly he's adapted to the American game. He's that rare player who doesn't need to score to beat you or impact a game.I'd argue that Andy Rautins, Brandon Triche, Michael Gbinije and GMac belong in the conversation of high basketball IQ.
And yet Moten in his sr year did three of the dumbest things a Syracuse player has ever done. He fouled a Pitt player shooting a 3 with us having a 4 pt lead with a second or so left. He took a 5 second call against I believe P.C. in the Big East tournament and we won't mention the last one. It's still too painfulThey were all great, but not higher than Moten. And Moten wasn’t higher than the all-time best: Sherman.
The through the legs hike pass to Stevie pretty much sealed the deal forever for The General.
The only one on that list that feels exceptionally high IQ to me was Rautins.I'd argue that Andy Rautins, Brandon Triche, Michael Gbinije and GMac belong in the conversation of high basketball IQ.
Ill-timed brain farts notwithstanding, he was still one of the smartest bball players I've ever seen. You don't become the SU and OBE all-time leading scorer, w/out being smart.And yet Moten in his sr year did three of the dumbest things a Syracuse player has ever done. He fouled a Pitt player shooting a 3 with us having a 4 pt lead with a second or so left. He took a 5 second call against I believe P.C. in the Big East tournament and we won't mention the last one. It's still too painful
I agree 100%. I think he was the smartest player at Syracuse ever. That is why it is so odd that he has three monumental mistakes.Ill-timed brain farts notwithstanding, he was still one of the smartest bball players I've ever seen. You don't become the SU and OBE all-time leading scorer, w/out being smart.
That 5-second call vs Arkansas haunts me to this day. And it hurt worse because it was Moten who did it...our smartest and best player...in his final game...!!!!! Inexplicable.I agree 100%. I think he was the smartest player at Syracuse ever. That is why it is so odd that he has three monumental mistakes.
I didn't mention that one for a reason. That was the toughest loss for me ever. That's right. Ever. That was the time out against Arkansas. The 5 second call was in the Big Eat tournament.That 5-second call vs Arkansas haunts me to this day. And it hurt worse because it was Moten who did it...our smartest and best player...in his final game...!!!!! Inexplicable.
For me, too. The Arkansas time out. Dear god, it gives me tremors to recall it!I didn't mention that one for a reason. That was the toughest loss for me ever. That's right. Ever. That was the time out against Arkansas. The 5 second call was in the Big Eat tournament.
I was so upset, I walked out of the house. I came back in for the overtime.For me, too. The Arkansas time out. Dear god, it gives me tremors to recall it!
I didn't mention that one for a reason. That was the toughest loss for me ever. That's right. Ever. That was the time out against Arkansas. The 5 second call was in the Big Eat tournament.
Ill-timed brain farts notwithstanding, he was still one of the smartest bball players I've ever seen. You don't become the SU and OBE all-time leading scorer, w/out being smart.
Wow, 1987 IU isn’t higher? Be thankful if you were too young. Still haunts me.I didn't mention that one for a reason. That was the toughest loss for me ever. That's right. Ever. That was the time out against Arkansas. The 5 second call was in the Big Eat tournament.
That's what some people used to say about Leo Rautins.Agree about Bird. I'm not saying he will BE Larry Bird, I'm saying he will be a poor-man's version. !
Wait...didn't Moten hold the ball w/ JB shouting behind him "5-seconds!!...5-seconds...shoot"! That wasn't vs Arky in the NCAA's?I didn't mention that one for a reason. That was the toughest loss for me ever. That's right. Ever. That was the time out against Arkansas. The 5 second call was in the Big Eat tournament.
That's what some people used to say about Leo Rautins.
ask the blondeSo when do we find out if he returns? Feels like we won’t know for sure until fall enrollment starts.
You rat!!Wait...didn't Moten hold the ball w/ JB shouting behind him "5-seconds!!...5-seconds...shoot"! That wasn't vs Arky in the NCAA's?
*Nevermind, found the video: My bad. Oh, and forgive me for replaying this- besides, '87 was MUCH MUCH worse!
Still love Luke Jackson though. I can forgive.
I'd argue that Andy Rautins, Brandon Triche, Michael Gbinije and GMac belong in the conversation of high basketball IQ.