Marrone to Jets

[shandeezy7]

The Bills ownership wanted their own guy and Marrone knew it was only a matter of time until the cut ties with him in favor for said guy. It was a smart move and now he will get to coach a more popular team in a much better city but that comes with added pressure. He also gets to completely bail on the EJ Manuel fiasco.

You may not like Marrone but he plays the game very well.

Bail on the EJ Manuel fiasco for the stability of Geno Smith LOLLLLLLLLLLL

 

[Finwad32]

Should he have called the entire team individually?

He could've, wouldn't be that crazy to make 50 phone calls. Or you could have one of the 5 administrative assistants in the office draft up a letter to send to everyone thanking them for their contributions and such. Sending out a mass text as your running out the door is amateurish IMO.

But, you're right, the season was over and guys were spread out all over the country. It was the easiest and fastest way to communicate. It's just a personal preference of mine that texts are unprofessional and impersonal.

 

[Finwad32]

I can see it now, Marrone calls every single player and says, "I've got something really important to tell you, can you fly back across the country for a meeting tomorrow"? Players show up, Marrone says, "Guys, management and I couldn't come to a long term agreement and I'm going to opt out of my contract". Players all look at each other and think... Did I just fly back to Buffalo over the holidays just to be told something that could have been texted to me? What an arrogant @sshole.

Never said anything about holding a meeting. But, make it sound as ridiculous as you want.

It's just a personal preference of mine not to utilize texts for business decisions that impact the lives of a lot of people. It's unprofessional IMO.

 

[djorange1989]

Doug did a nice job getting this program back to respectability. We will never be able to call him a great SU coach because he left after 4 years. Which is ok. He coached the Bills to their first winning record in a decade but you can't say much beyond that because he left after two years. Which is ok. We know the guy is a good coach, we know he is an overly sensitve guy. A control freak, a diva if you will. What we don't know is if he can be a great coach. He needs to stick around long enough to lead a team to greatness first.

 

[rrlbees]

He could've, wouldn't be that crazy to make 50 phone calls. Or you could have one of the 5 administrative assistants in the office draft up a letter to send to everyone thanking them for their contributions and such. Sending out a mass text as your running out the door is amateurish IMO. But, you're right, the season was over and guys were spread out all over the country. It was the easiest and fastest way to communicate. It's just a personal preference of mine that texts are unprofessional and impersonal.

I talk on the phone with 50 or more people at one time quite often. Technology is wonderful.

 

[Finwad32]

I talk on the phone with 50 or more people at one time quite often. Technology is wonderful.

I'd imagine a conference call wouldn't be that hard to facilitate either...

There's a dozen ways to do it, and just about all of them show significantly more tact.

 

[Millhouse]

I'd imagine a conference call wouldn't be that hard to facilitate either... There's a dozen ways to do it, and just about all of them show significantly more tact.

Id rather just get the text if I were a player

 

[Chip]

Id rather just get the text if I were a player

I'd rather just read it in the news.

 

[Whitey23]

Also, I bet they most knew before he texted.

 

[gocraz4dasu]

Bail on the EJ Manuel fiasco for the stability of Geno Smith LOLLLLLLLLLLL

Except now he gets to draft a new QB without looking bad about a previous draft selection (one in which it is argued that he may have been forced into). This way he gets to attach his career onto a new QB, that he drafts or acquires elsewhere, as opposed to who he already knows is a dud, EJ Manuel.

I figured that was kind of obvious considering the lackluster stable of QB's the Jets have to offer. One of the few teams with a worse stable of QB's than the Jets is the Bills. Now Marrone has an early first round pick to pick a new QB while the Bills do not have that option to improve their QB situation.

 

[Toga]

I wasn't attempting to demean your sources of information. I have no doubt you converse with some of the people who possess a kind of first hand information of what occurred with Marrone. Rather, I was suggesting that in the area of human behavior most of our conclusions are based on something like "gossip" by which I meant to indicate individualized assessments arrived at through numerous filters, attitudes, perspectives, frameworks, etc as well as through the synthetic acts which resemble what Kant calls "pure thinking."

I could be wrong- it wouldn't be the first time. But I think I have some idea about the topic under consideration.

Happy New Year!

 

[CousCuse]

Adam Gase . OK .

 

[OrangeAl]

Bail on the EJ Manuel fiasco for the stability of Geno Smith LOLLLLLLLLLLL

What would Doug say to Geno, "I love beating you like a drum"?

 

[Toga]

What would Doug say to Geno, "I love beating you like a drum"?

"Son - being on your back is no way to go through a game."

 

[anomander]

Yes it is.

It is gossip given and taken out of context.

Is Doug Marrone an egotist and control freak? Sure.

Did he carefully prohibit access to the program? Sure.

Did he lack a certain amount of patience? Yes.

Did his approach bother some? Yes it did.

And that is all pretty meaningless stuff for a variety of reasons.

He was a great asset to the program. A huge talent.

If you looked at a list of all of the top coaches I think you could say "yes" for all of them as well. To be a successful coach, that's not really a bad thing. He had a vision of what he expected Syracuse University to be as a football program. Unfortunately others didn't feel that way.

 

[Millhouse]

Adam Gase . OK .

All of a sudden all the nfl types thinking he's a hot commodity doesn't matter much to you

 

[LennX6]

New ownership. Too much uncertainty.

But too many moves can impact appeal of coach.

Like Larry Brown

 

[LennX6]

If you looked at a list of all of the top coaches I think you could say "yes" for all of them as well. To be a successful coach, that's not really a bad thing. He had a vision of what he expected Syracuse University to be as a football program. Unfortunately others didn't feel that way.

Look up Nick Saban for reference. This guy would have his agent leak out interest in an open job just to squeeze an extension out of his current employer.
Still think a lot of this is sandbox issues left-over from the EJ Manuel situation .

 

[KCJax03]

Ease up? All I said was that he had a pattern of taking pathetic teams and turning them into winning teams -- even when you take the 'Scooch record' which excludes those wins that Scooch doesn't deem worthy.

If you want to take a win away from Cuse in 2010, they still had their first winning season and win in a bowl game since 2001.

If you want to say the last game of this season -- where Tom Brady started and was outscored -- doesn't count, he still has one of the best seasons for the Bills since Flutie left (and improved by 3 wins since 2012 because, let's face it, a win in week 17 over the tanking Jets in 2012 doesn't really count). But, if we are making up fake W/L records, you could also say that the Bills received one of the greatest screw-jobs in NFL history this year and should realistically be coming off of a 10-6 season.

He's not perfect, and I never said that he was, but coaches that start putting together winning seasons on shitty teams in the NFL or NCAAF are hard to come by.

This is what makes Marone such an interesting debate. There is no doubt he has made bad teams better after his arrival but the problem is he never sticks around long enough to complete the cycle. Does anyone really know what his ceiling as a head coach is? Perhaps this is the genius of Marone, turn incremental improvements into new opportunities, never stick around long enough to be fully measured.

 

[rrlbees]

Like Larry Brown

His appeal was that he won big almost everyplace

 

[CousCuse]

The new owner gave a vote of no confidence . Doug's previous agreement was with RW who is deceased , so he wanted to see if TP would keep His staff together.

 

[KaiserUEO]

The new owner gave a vote of no confidence . Doug's previous agreement was with RW who is deceased , so he wanted to see if TP would keep His staff together.

Doug is a smart man.

with all the uncertainty, you certainly dont want to go into year 3 of your job without a QB...thats career suicide. he played his hand correctly and now he is out with 4mill in the pocket and a 9-7 last record on everyones brain.

the other side of the coin is that now that NFL types know what he can do, they might opt for the unkown riches of a 1st time hire.

will be interesting to see where he lands...and in what capacity.

 

[Statesman1]

Getting Bree's would be bigger for the Jets than getting Marrone. A top 5 QB puts them in the playoffs.

If true, not a fan of it. Those players run through walls for their coaches. Yes, they're paid handsomely for it, but, there should be some measure of respect/gratitude that goes above and beyond a farewell text... right?

Yeah maybe some do but most run through the wall for the money and themselves. Honestly the way fans romanticize what is essentially a job to players and coaches is so naive.

 

[OrangePA]

If you looked at a list of all of the top coaches I think you could say "yes" for all of them as well. To be a successful coach, that's not really a bad thing. He had a vision of what he expected Syracuse University to be as a football program. Unfortunately others didn't feel that way.

I think that's right.

Most successful coaches need control and have strong egos.