Marrone to Jets

[Millhouse]

If Marrone reuniting with Brees is the plan, why not do it in Buffalo with a great defense already in place? Answer: Pagula's feel the need to put "their stamp" on the organization and turnover the HC, staff, and possibly GM. Vanity knows no bounds.

Or the brees stuff is bs from a very silly poster

 

[GoSU96]

Jets had $2o+M in cap space this last year. Lot of Free Agent ammo. Picking 6th.

 

[Finwad32]

It'll be interesting to see if any Buffalo FA's head East on 90, if this comes to fruition. Jerry Hughes who supposedly butted heads with Marrone early on, but, is now behind him is the first that comes to mind.

I believe Hogan is restricted, but, I wouldn't be surprised to see him with Marrone eventually.

 

[llandz]

We come out every year.

It all started with the 1993 Fiesta Bowl.

Lots of fun.

Happy New Year to you and the family!

One of these days you have to contact me when you are out here...breakfast, drinks, game watching, or something!! If you are here the beginning of Feb. we have 2 big SU events that week.

 

[Millhouse]

It'll be interesting to see if any Buffalo FA's head East on 90, if this comes to fruition. Jerry Hughes who supposedly butted heads with Marrone early on, but, is now behind him is the first that comes to mind. I believe Hogan is restricted, but, I wouldn't be surprised to see him with Marrone eventually.

What will they do without Chris hogan?!?!

 

[Cusester]

If you really want to know I am sure you can find out. ... but that might disturb the world you appear to have created for yourself.

Where is the dislike button.

 

[Full_Rebar]

It'll be interesting to see if any Buffalo FA's head East on 90, if this comes to fruition. Jerry Hughes who supposedly butted heads with Marrone early on, but, is now behind him is the first that comes to mind.

I believe Hogan is restricted, but, I wouldn't be surprised to see him with Marrone eventually.

I'll go out on a limb and say that we won't see a Marrone-Mike Williams Pt. 3

 

[Whitey23]

Why would Marrone go from one job where he had no quarterback to another job where he has no quarterback? I liked Marrone but I think the immaturity may be in going after the NYJ HC job because he grew up in NYC rather than going for the best football situation regardless of location.

He picked Manuel so he would have taken the fall for the mistake. In NY he will get a second shot at picking a QB.

 

[Toga]

Marrone texts?
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015...ld-bills-players-he-was-leaving-via-mass-text

 

[Whitey23]

Marrone texts?
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015...ld-bills-players-he-was-leaving-via-mass-text

People are freaking out about this on twitter. What else as he supposed to do? Season is over. Can't call a team meeting.

 

[Finwad32]

Marrone texts?
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015...ld-bills-players-he-was-leaving-via-mass-text

If true, not a fan of it. Those players run through walls for their coaches. Yes, they're paid handsomely for it, but, there should be some measure of respect/gratitude that goes above and beyond a farewell text... right?

 

[anglerman]

Many of us on this board actually are donors and socialize/work with administrators - and know board members quite well.

What you have conveyed is pretty much psycho babble, gossip.

And it doesn't scratch the surface of Doug's SU experience.

Scott Shafer is a great guy as was Greg Robinson while he was here. And unfortunately being a friendly, accommodating open-door HC does not always translate into successful program building.

Hopefully it will with Scott. But this past year was certainly not a better alternative to the supposed horribles of Doug Marrone.

I think that he described very well what happened with Doug. I know you. Want to defend him but he said is spot on and not"psychob abble. "

 

[RoofBeam]

Of course it is "gossip"...and that is just how your view of Marrone has been informed, as well. There aren't any peer reviewed studies of his abilities to offend and alienate people available. I am not one of the people who think Marrone was an incompetent football coach when he was at SU. I don't resent him for moving on to professional football and could care less what he does after SU. Hiring him at SU was at best a very mixed blessing and while I agree that he got SU football back on track to respectability I hardly think he was the savior some people portray him as and in my opinion he was far from the only, and certainly not the best, man for the job. In retrospectively evaluating a person's job performance one not only has to assess the success or failure of that person but the opportunity cost of having hired that person and not someone else who might have been much better suited to all the challenges presented by the job.

My assessment of Marrone is independent of my assessment of Shafer and if you are calling this past football season an abysmal failure you will get no argument from me.

Many of us on this board actually are donors and socialize/work with administrators - and know board members quite well.

What you have conveyed is pretty much psycho babble, gossip.

And it doesn't scratch the surface of Doug's SU experience.

Scott Shafer is a great guy as was Greg Robinson while he was here. And unfortunately being a friendly, accommodating open-door HC does not always translate into successful program building.

Hopefully it will with Scott. But this past year was certainly not a better alternative to the supposed horribles of Doug Marrone.

 

[Whitey23]

If true, not a fan of it. Those players run through walls for their coaches. Yes, they're paid handsomely for it, but, there should be some measure of respect/gratitude that goes above and beyond a farewell text... right?

Should he have called the entire team individually?

 

[rrlbees]

People are freaking out about this on twitter. What else as he supposed to do? Season is over. Can't call a team meeting.

College wasn't over when the SU players found out.

 

[OrangePA]

Of course it is "gossip"...and that is just how your view of Marrone has been informed, as well. There aren't any peer reviewed studies of his abilities to offend and alienate people available. I am not one of the people who think Marrone was an incompetent football coach when he was at SU. I don't resent him for moving on to professional football and could care less what he does after SU. Hiring him at SU was at best a very mixed blessing and while I agree that he got SU football back on track to respectability I hardly think he was the savior some people portray him as and in my opinion he was far from the only, and certainly not the best, man for the job. In retrospectively evaluating a person's job performance one not only has to assess the success or failure of that person but the opportunity cost of having hired that person and not someone else who might have been much better suited to all the challenges presented by the job.

My assessment of Marrone is independent of my assessment of Shafer and if you are calling this past football season an abysmal failure you will get no argument from me.

As far as the basis for my information is concerned.

You're wrong. You have no idea what you're talking about.

But fun discussion. Take care.

 

[Full_Rebar]

College wasn't over when the SU players found out.

Semester break, and he came back to address players when they returned to campus, but you know that already.

 

[rrlbees]

Semester break, and he came back to address players when they returned to campus, but you know that already.

And most were on campus.

 

[OrangePA]

I think that he described very well what happened with Doug. I know you. Want to defend him but he said is spot on and not"psychob abble. "

Yes it is.

It is gossip given and taken out of context.

Is Doug Marrone an egotist and control freak? Sure.

Did he carefully prohibit access to the program? Sure.

Did he lack a certain amount of patience? Yes.

Did his approach bother some? Yes it did.

And that is all pretty meaningless stuff for a variety of reasons.

He was a great asset to the program. A huge talent.

 

[RoofBeam]

I wasn't attempting to demean your sources of information. I have no doubt you converse with some of the people who possess a kind of first hand information of what occurred with Marrone. Rather, I was suggesting that in the area of human behavior most of our conclusions are based on something like "gossip" by which I meant to indicate individualized assessments arrived at through numerous filters, attitudes, perspectives, frameworks, etc as well as through the synthetic acts which resemble what Kant calls "pure thinking."

I could be wrong- it wouldn't be the first time. But I think I have some idea about the topic under consideration.

Happy New Year!

As far as the basis for my information is concerned.

You're wrong. You have no idea what you're talking about.

But fun discussion. Take care.

 

[Full_Rebar]

And most were on campus.

So what's the right call, come back and meet with those on campus? Not take an NFL job until you can tell them? He came back and faced them all in-person when all were on campus before classes began. All his interviews were after Pinstripe Bowl and his staff was fully aware of what was going on.

 

[Whitey23]

College wasn't over when the SU players found out.

I'm taking about the Bills.

 

[007]

I wasn't attempting to demean your sources of information. I have no doubt you converse with some of the people who possess a kind of first hand information of what occurred with Marrone. Rather, I was suggesting that in the area of human behavior most of our conclusions are based on something like "gossip" by which I meant to indicate individualized assessments arrived at through numerous filters, attitudes, perspectives, frameworks, etc as well as through the synthetic acts which resemble what Kant calls "pure thinking."

I could be wrong- it wouldn't be the first time. But I think I have some idea about the topic under consideration.

Happy New Year!

Professor Beam? Just an a priori guess based on the Kant reference.

 

[RoofBeam]

HA!...Very nice, Professor 007! A phenomenal guess!

Professor Beam? Just an a priori guess based on the Kant reference.

 

[qdawgg]

If true, not a fan of it. Those players run through walls for their coaches. Yes, they're paid handsomely for it, but, there should be some measure of respect/gratitude that goes above and beyond a farewell text... right?

I can see it now, Marrone calls every single player and says, "I've got something really important to tell you, can you fly back across the country for a meeting tomorrow"? Players show up, Marrone says, "Guys, management and I couldn't come to a long term agreement and I'm going to opt out of my contract". Players all look at each other and think... Did I just fly back to Buffalo over the holidays just to be told something that could have been texted to me? What an arrogant @sshole.