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There's an All-Conference, Round 2/3 draft prospect out there whose father I work with. They took an official visit to BC and the Dazzler sat the kid down in his office with his father and mother. Addazio says something along the lines of "You're a rich kid from *famously wealthy NYC suburb*, why should I offer you a scholarship when there are kids out there who would run through a brick wall just for a chance to go to college?"

BC immediately went from a top choice to crossed off the list. The dude is really insane.
"That's right, Coach. I'm going to college, either way. I'll run through a brick wall for you, because I WANT to."

Did the kid not think it was a test, about his character? That's my guess.
 
"That's right, Coach. I'm going to college, either way. I'll run through a brick wall for you, because I WANT to."

Did the kid not think it was a test, about his character? That's my guess.

From what I understand, the recruit and his family thought: we have committable offers from multiple recent national champions, PSU, Miami, Oregon, etc, and your recruiting pitch is to question my commitment to football because my family is successful?

Overall, I think everyone felt the Dazzler's pitch was just bizarre and they didn't really get it.

On a side note -- they actually loved Scott Shafer as a person, the kid just didn't think Syracuse was the right school for him.
 
Eh. Not sure if I’d buy it. There’s disgruntled players with their head in the clouds about their own ability, an axe to grind, and an unwillingness/unableness to be accountable for their own athletic shortcomings who will talk bad about every single coach in the history of sports, somewhere.

I still remember the most unathletic kid in the history of the world talking bad about the junior high baseball coach who was nice enough to keep extra players beyond a typical roster and not cut him and try working with him. Years later, the kid is still blaming coach for his lack of playing time and claiming he quit playing because of it. Of course being blunt kids, we were like “cmon man, you sucked at baseball. It’s not his fault.” Looking back, the kid was probably insecure as hell and couldn’t handle reality, and blamed somebody else.

Sorry, I will never buy into the “favoritism” thing. Coach’s “favorites” are the ones who get it done. Especially at that level, where their career rides on it.

“Tackling dummies”?? What does that even mean? You weren’t good enough to get on the field in games and feel like you wasted your time practicing? That’s how I read it.
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Was recently watching all the D-Day Anniversary programs and thought of myself at 18 and looked at my teen kids and thought - thank God for this country that it wasn't our generations called to arms.

My current nails on chalkboard is getting called my first name by my kids friends. I nip that sh-- in the bud fast.
 
how one raises their own kids isn't what we are really talking about. How about the complete over scheduling of kids today? Anyone want to take on that subject, I find that completely ridiculous. Also the push for kids to start focusing on one sport at a very early age? Can't remember the last 3 sport athlete I have seen come out of HS in recent memory, thing of the past really
 
Was recently watching all the D-Day Anniversary programs and thought of myself at 18 and looked at my teen kids and thought - thank God for this country that it wasn't our generations called to arms.

My current nails on chalkboard is getting called my first name by my kids friends. I nip that sh-- in the bud fast.


I don't mind it that much but see your point. I do business with a couple of my friend's Dads these days and I have a very difficult time even to this day calling them by their first name even though they both insisted on it. It's the right thing but old habits die hard and it's still very weird.
 
Millennials have fought the longest war in US history that has taken up their entire adult lives. They didn't need a draft to do it. Boomers and remnants of the "greatest generation" got us into this never ending boondoggle. Millennials didn't ask for this, but, for better or worse, they answered the call.

It's funny, kids over the last 20 or so years are worked so much harder than we were when I was their age. Some things may or may not be different in terms of their attitudes, but the regimented lives with play dates, various practices, entire weekends taken over to sports, competitive college admissions far beyond anything that existed 20 years ago - kids today have to work so much harder than kids 20+ years ago. With respect to Syracuse football and basketball - look at the bodies of the kids on the 2003 team (Melo pudgy, Gmac a skinny freshman who took the summer off to go fishing, etc). The commitment to fitness in every aspect of their lives is exponentially higher than it was just 16 years ago.

I've worked with millennials. Some are entitled and some are amazing. I've worked with old people/boomers who, at the start of my career, were shocked when I had the audacity to not roll over for them in court. One might say those old boomers felt entitled to have the xennial (? those of us born in the late 70s really are generation-less since we don't fit with millennials or gen x.) give in to whatever they want instead of pursuing my clients' interests.
 
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Millennials have fought the longest war in US history that has taken up their entire lives. They didn't need a draft to do it. Boomers and remnants of the "greatest generation" got us into this never ending boondoggle. Millennials didn't ask for this, but, for better or worse, they answered the call.

It's funny, kids over the last 20 or so years are worked so much harder than we were when I was their age. Some things may or may not be different in terms of their attitudes, but the regimented lives with play dates, various practices, entire weekends taken over to sports, competitive college admissions far beyond anything that existed 20 years ago - kids today have to work so much harder than kids 20+ years ago. With respect to Syracuse football and basketball - look at the bodies of the kids on the 2003 team (Melo pudgy, Gmac a skinny freshman who took the summer off to go fishing, etc). The commitment to fitness in every aspect of their lives is exponentially higher than it was just 16 years ago.

I've worked with millennials. Some are entitled and some are amazing. I've worked with old people/boomers who, at the start of my career, were shocked when I had the audacity to not roll over for them in court. One might say those old boomers felt entitled to have the xennial (? those of us born in the late 70s really are generation-less since we don't fit with millennials or gen x.) give in to whatever they want instead of pursuing my clients' interests.

I'm interested in seeing how the generation after millenials (gen y?) turns out. The generation who were school age/adolecent during the great recession.
 
I'm interested in seeing how the generation after millenials (gen y?) turns out. The generation who were school age/adolecent during the great recession.

I thought that was Gen Z?
 
how one raises their own kids isn't what we are really talking about. How about the complete over scheduling of kids today? Anyone want to take on that subject, I find that completely ridiculous. Also the push for kids to start focusing on one sport at a very early age? Can't remember the last 3 sport athlete I have seen come out of HS in recent memory, thing of the past really

I'm at my 4th graders elementary school 'fun day' on Monday. the kids are involved in a playground kickball game (ya know with the big red rubber ball) and there are literally 2 Dad's screaming at their 4th graders to do better - no exaggeration - screaming and yelling (catch it, get him out, throw it, kick it harder blah blah blah). Playground kickball. So the cake was the 4th grade girl who dropped a pop up and her Dad screams at her "and you call yourself a softball player"...I just about spit up and I wanted to go punch the guy in the face. Dude it's a 4th grade playground kickball game. What on earth have we become? Fun days for kids I don't think are so fun anymore.

These two aren't being rasied as delicate flowers but holy cripe this is the complete opposite end of the spectrum.
 
Was recently watching all the D-Day Anniversary programs and thought of myself at 18 and looked at my teen kids and thought - thank God for this country that it wasn't our generations called to arms.

My current nails on chalkboard is getting called my first name by my kids friends. I nip that sh-- in the bud fast.

Wow I would never even think about calling an adult by their first name when I was growing up in the 80s
 
Was recently watching all the D-Day Anniversary programs and thought of myself at 18 and looked at my teen kids and thought - thank God for this country that it wasn't our generations called to arms.

My current nails on chalkboard is getting called my first name by my kids friends. I nip that sh-- in the bud fast.

Yes! I’ve noticed a huge increase in that! When I was a kid, your friends parents were ALWAYS Mr.____ or Mrs._____. When did this first name stuff start? It sounds so weird to me when I hear it.
 
I'm interested in seeing how the generation after millenials (gen y?) turns out. The generation who were school age/adolecent during the great recession.

I think we're fubar when the current elementary kids take over. Soo many of these kids can't think for themselves and can't problem solve and my theory is because their parents do everything for them. Theyre not allowed to think and learn. The kids I coached 6 years ago versus the kids I coach now (at the same age) are night and day different. They look at you with a blank stare when you're giving them instruction. It's a crazy weird dynamic.
 
I'm at my 4th graders elementary school 'fun day' on Monday. the kids are involved in a playground kickball game (ya know with the big red rubber ball) and there are literally 2 Dad's screaming at their 4th graders to do better - no exaggeration - screaming and yelling (catch it, get him out, throw it, kick it harder blah blah blah). Playground kickball. So the cake was the 4th grade girl who dropped a pop up and her Dad screams at her "and you call yourself a softball player"...I just about spit up and I wanted to go punch the guy in the face. Dude it's a 4th grade playground kickball game. What on earth have we become? Fun days for kids I don't think are so fun anymore.

These two aren't being rasied as delicate flowers but holy cripe this is the complete opposite end of the spectrum.
My son played in a USTA tourney last weekend (he's 11). I was watching him play on one court while keeping an eye on a match on the adjoining court. The 2nd seed in the tourney - great player - repeatedly and obviously called balls out. And he repeatedly questioned the other kid's line calls - even though the other kid was playing fairly. I started talking with the dad of the kid who was on the wrong side of the bad calls. The dad said that the kid was known for this. And that his parents were jerks.

I actually walked over to the dad of the kid who was cheating. I asked him - "is this the impression you really want your 12 year old to make? He's easily winning the match. What's the point?" The dude looked at me for a second. Looked back at his son. Then said - "#$% off." I shook my head and wandered off.

The whole thing really bummed me out. Tennis isn't exactly MMA.
 
I'm at my 4th graders elementary school 'fun day' on Monday. the kids are involved in a playground kickball game (ya know with the big red rubber ball) and there are literally 2 Dad's screaming at their 4th graders to do better - no exaggeration - screaming and yelling (catch it, get him out, throw it, kick it harder blah blah blah). Playground kickball. So the cake was the 4th grade girl who dropped a pop up and her Dad screams at her "and you call yourself a softball player"...I just about spit up and I wanted to go punch the guy in the face. Dude it's a 4th grade playground kickball game. What on earth have we become? Fun days for kids I don't think are so fun anymore.

These two aren't being rasied as delicate flowers but holy cripe this is the complete opposite end of the spectrum.


Yep, my point exactly. There is a balance for sure. Compete and have fun at the same time, also how about some context about time and place as well? It has gotten crazy. Almost impossible to coach these days too with people like this on the sidelines
 
I'm at my 4th graders elementary school 'fun day' on Monday. the kids are involved in a playground kickball game (ya know with the big red rubber ball) and there are literally 2 Dad's screaming at their 4th graders to do better - no exaggeration - screaming and yelling (catch it, get him out, throw it, kick it harder blah blah blah). Playground kickball. So the cake was the 4th grade girl who dropped a pop up and her Dad screams at her "and you call yourself a softball player"...I just about spit up and I wanted to go punch the guy in the face. Dude it's a 4th grade playground kickball game. What on earth have we become? Fun days for kids I don't think are so fun anymore.

These two aren't being rasied as delicate flowers but holy cripe this is the complete opposite end of the spectrum.

Yup. Youth sports in general are batsh%t crazy now.

Everybody plays for some “travel” team with some pretentious name(often involving the word “elite”), not because the kids are actually that good but because the parents paid money for them to play. They all travel all over the place to play all these games, adults all wrapped up and overinvested, posting about it 24/7 on social media and talking about it to anyone who will listen...even though nobody else cares at all.

I’m all for a reorganization of youth sports where no parents are allowed. Just drop the kids off and let them run and play the games. Everyone would be better off.
 
how one raises their own kids isn't what we are really talking about. How about the complete over scheduling of kids today? Anyone want to take on that subject, I find that completely ridiculous. Also the push for kids to start focusing on one sport at a very early age? Can't remember the last 3 sport athlete I have seen come out of HS in recent memory, thing of the past really

All of which is the completely the fault of parents. Parents who aren't millennials, I'll add, but Gen X.
 
Was recently watching all the D-Day Anniversary programs and thought of myself at 18 and looked at my teen kids and thought - thank God for this country that it wasn't our generations called to arms.

Well, those 18 year olds were the product of the Great Depression, which certainly toughened people up. That being said, there are a s-ton of 18-22 year olds who fought in Iraq and Afghanistan over the past 20 years. Those kids are pretty GD tough, and have come home to face endless mental health problems that our society has barely acknowledged. Soooo, yeah, there are a lot of "kids today" whom I'd want storming that beach.
 

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