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Melo is arguably the best "interational" style player in the world, even now at 32. He has been since 2004. Larry Brown may be remembered differently if he had played Melo and LeBron in Athens instead of being an old, inflexible, rookie-hating douche. Melo was the best all around scorer on that team during the prelims.
 
Olympic Melo is the platonic ideal of Melo.

Too bad he's always been on dog**** teams.
Yeah, he only could win about 48 or 50 games a year with those Denver teams, and get them to the playoffs every season.
 
Melo is arguably the best "interational" style player in the world, even now at 32. He has been since 2004. Larry Brown may be remembered differently if he had played Melo and LeBron in Athens instead of being an old, inflexible, rookie-hating douche. Melo was the best all around scorer on that team during the prelims.

He played Richard Jefferson and Carlos Boozer more than Lebron and Melo. Amazing that such a successful coach could blow something that simple.
 
Is the best!
It's amazing what the guy can do with good teammates and good coaching. Although tonight was impressive, I really liked how he has deferred his scoring to his teammates when the situation called for it (especially on the last two Olympic teams). I think that it really dispels his reputation as a selfish player
 
Olympic Melo is the platonic ideal of Melo.

Too bad he's always been on dog**** teams.

I'm sorry I've got to play the worlds smallest violin for Melo being on crappy teams. His Denver teams were perennially in the stacked western playoffs. Good but not great teams, did make a WCF in 2009 and had the Lakers tied at 2-2, with at least one of those games Denver threw away with late turnovers. Melo forced a trade to a bad Knicks team, then after a few years of Dolan had a chance to escape and didn't take it. Melo put himself with a horrible Knicks organization.

 
I'm sorry I've got to play the worlds smallest violin for Melo being on crappy teams. His Denver teams were perennially in the stacked western playoffs. Good but not great teams, did make a WCF in 2009 and had the Lakers tied at 2-2, with at least one of those games Denver threw away with late turnovers. Melo forced a trade to a bad Knicks team, then after a few years of Dolan had a chance to escape and didn't take it. Melo put himself with a horrible Knicks organization.



I'm sorry - I get the fact he made it clear that he wanted to play in New York, but Dolan is a complete moron and is 99% to blame for the "forced trade" and the situation the Knicks have been in. He is the one that overpaid to the millionth degree for Melo, who was scheduled to become a free agent in the summer anyway.

Again, I understand if you want to say Carmelo "forced" a trade because that is essentially how it played out. But it's management's responsibility to understand that they don't need to mortgage the future for a player who wants to play for them in less than a year. Players do not dictate who is included in trades for them.

Cannot stand the vast criticism from some about that trade. Carmelo should have kept his mouth shut but ultimately its Knicks management and his agent who are the people who should bear the brunt of it.
 
he had to have had an idea how 'ed up that organization was before he went there. my biggest SMH of the whole thing is Carmelo experienced the NYK dysfunction firsthand and didn't jump ship. I know he gets paid more but I'm not going to cry for him about being on a bad team. He's not trapped there like a reserve clause era MLB player.
 
He played Richard Jefferson and Carlos Boozer more than Lebron and Melo. Amazing that such a successful coach could blow something that simple.

It was his inflexible attitude towards young players that doomed that squad. He was always known for not playing rookies in the NBA. He carried that same attitude over into the Olympics. He wasn't going to play those guys unless everyone else blew their knees out. Melo was one of the best three point shooters on that team, and they needed scoring desperately.
 
He is so smooth. I love seeing him and JB shine. Will forever go down as top 5 in SU history
 
I'm sorry - I get the fact he made it clear that he wanted to play in New York, but Dolan is a complete moron and is 99% to blame for the "forced trade" and the situation the Knicks have been in. He is the one that overpaid to the millionth degree for Melo, who was scheduled to become a free agent in the summer anyway.

Again, I understand if you want to say Carmelo "forced" a trade because that is essentially how it played out. But it's management's responsibility to understand that they don't need to mortgage the future for a player who wants to play for them in less than a year. Players do not dictate who is included in trades for them.

Cannot stand the vast criticism from some about that trade. Carmelo should have kept his mouth shut but ultimately its Knicks management and his agent who are the people who should bear the brunt of it.

I seem to remember Melo really wanted to lock in his extension before a potential lockout. I don't remember if he talked about extending with Denver, but people do need to remember Brooklyn was also very active in trying to get Melo and they ended up getting Deron Williams from Utah, so it's very possible if the Knicks don't pull the trigger Melo ends up with the Nets.

If he leads this Olympic team to gold he should seal his place in the hall of fame.

You think? I think the guy is going to end up int he HOF and I don't think he's going to need the Olympic career to really seal the case.

That being said he was lights out last night.
 
It was his inflexible attitude towards young players that doomed that squad. He was always known for not playing rookies in the NBA. He carried that same attitude over into the Olympics. He wasn't going to play those guys unless everyone else blew their knees out. Melo was one of the best three point shooters on that team, and they needed scoring desperately.

For whatever it's worth, Melo was a bad 3 point shooter early in his career. In his first 4 years in the league, he shot 28% from 3.

But then you look at the rest of that roster; man there was no shooting. Not a well constructed team, and Larry Brown did hate young players.
 
I'm sorry - I get the fact he made it clear that he wanted to play in New York, but Dolan is a complete moron and is 99% to blame for the "forced trade" and the situation the Knicks have been in. He is the one that overpaid to the millionth degree for Melo, who was scheduled to become a free agent in the summer anyway.

Again, I understand if you want to say Carmelo "forced" a trade because that is essentially how it played out. But it's management's responsibility to understand that they don't need to mortgage the future for a player who wants to play for them in less than a year. Players do not dictate who is included in trades for them.

Cannot stand the vast criticism from some about that trade. Carmelo should have kept his mouth shut but ultimately its Knicks management and his agent who are the people who should bear the brunt of it.
But if you listen to the back page rumors Melo has played a role in that dysfunction... forcing out Jeremy Lin, never got along with D'antonio, etc...

I love Melo but he's created his own mess in a lot of ways and his refusal to pass in key late game possessions even though he has no shot has cost the knicks a number of games over the years.
 
But if you listen to the back page rumors Melo has played a role in that dysfunction... forcing out Jeremy Lin, never got along with D'antonio, etc...

I love Melo but he's created his own mess in a lot of ways and his refusal to pass in key late game possessions even though he has no shot has cost the knicks a number of games over the years.

Forcing out Jeremy Lin? The Rockets offered him a "poison pill" contract that the Knicks would've been crazy to match. That had zero to do with Melo. So what though? Lin is a 10-12 PPG role player. Nice spark off the bench 3rd guard on a good team. His "Linsanity" couple weeks were great fun but he was never going to sustain that. People who act like he would've been a superstar in NY and it's Melo's fault that he's not are far from reality.

D'Antoni has been a pretty terrible coach in 3 of his 4 coaching jobs.

And I watch the Knicks often and strongly disagree with your late game assessment. Their struggles are all due to a lack of talent. Carmelo is all they have had the last few years. Porzingis will hopefully change that and develop into a all star level player soon. He showed a lot of promise last year. Rose and Noah being healthy and reverting to old form would really be nice, but I'm not real optimistic on that
 
But if you listen to the back page rumors Melo has played a role in that dysfunction... forcing out Jeremy Lin, never got along with D'antonio, etc...

I love Melo but he's created his own mess in a lot of ways and his refusal to pass in key late game possessions even though he has no shot has cost the knicks a number of games over the years.
I agree if it weren't for Melo's lack of interpersonal skills the Knicks would have won at least 2 titles by now with that stacked roster. Are you friggin kidding me. Please tell me you were high when you wrote this. No hanging out with Malia and posting at the same time.
 
Forcing out Jeremy Lin? The Rockets offered him a "poison pill" contract that the Knicks would've been crazy to match. That had zero to do with Melo. So what though? Lin is a 10-12 PPG role player. Nice spark off the bench 3rd guard on a good team. His "Linsanity" couple weeks were great fun but he was never going to sustain that. People who act like he would've been a superstar in NY and it's Melo's fault that he's not are far from reality.

Melo pretty clearly didn't like playing with Lin. I agree that the Linsanity thing didn't have staying power, but he did turn into a pretty solid rotational player. Though i am pretty sure better players than Melo have essentially run off better players than Lin before, I don't think Melo "ran off" Lin; I am pretty sure that Dolan didn't match because Lin pissed him off. That being said, I do think the Lin situation didn't reflect all that great on Melo; they had seemingly hit on something (how much was to be determined) with Lin and he did try and undermine it.
 
But if you listen to the back page rumors Melo has played a role in that dysfunction... forcing out Jeremy Lin, never got along with D'antonio, etc...

I love Melo but he's created his own mess in a lot of ways and his refusal to pass in key late game possessions even though he has no shot has cost the knicks a number of games over the years.
Pass to who? Give him good players he trusts and he will pass.
Didn't he lead the Knicks in scoring, rebounding and assists this year?
 

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