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Michael Benny the 1st to tweet about it. Story at 5

KellySyracuse said:
I stopped following Dunbar a while ago, he was too much of a negative nelly for me. In other news, glad to see Michael Benny get the "scoop" and not those dolts at Syracuse.com. I like Benny, he seems to be a good guy IMO.

I like Benny too.
 
I'm not convinced at all that the university wants out of the stadium business. They just want a better bottom line.

I thought I read a post on here that they did want out.
 
Future access since 81 and 481 are both right there.

I'll chip in here - lots of discussion about bringing down 81 overpass to a blvd level and re-routing 81 from 481 to 690 x-change back to 81 up to Destiny. Might have no Interstate access to SU except from current 690 (to be converted to 81). SU strongly supports this option.
 
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GoSU96 said:
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic.

This was all discussed at the tailgate Friday night.
 
NKR1978 said:
Went from reading him several times a day to checking if anythint worthwhile is on a couple times a week. I don't need sunshine and rainbows, but claiming to be "just keeping it real" when you go out of your way to look at everything from a negative slant is just not something I want to read. Plus he and his writers seem to take everything from this site anyway, much like Syracuse.com.

They don't do that - they consistently say things that are outdated or wrong. They'd know if they read here.
 
I'll chip in here - lots of discussion about bringing down 81 overpass to a blvd level and re-routing 81 from 481 to 690 x-change back to 81 up to Destiny. Might have no Interstate access to SU except from 690 (converted to 81 or back end by Drumlins from Jamesville exit). SU strongly supports this option.
thank goodness, it would be crazy if they didn't. Think of how much property opens up once the overpass gets taken down. Not to mention the amount of real estate that would have to be leveled in order to put an updated overpass in it's place.

Crazy times we're living in the 'cuse
 
GoSU96 said:
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic.
absolutely not. A rumor I've heard - but seems to be dead - is the concept of acquiring land along Ainsley drive where the university already owns properties.

Putting a stadium there with ample parking / tailgating.

Keeping Skytop (which is currently expanding its parking capacity). Ainsley drive is turned into a sports complex and the Brighton Ave interchange gets beefed up to handle increased loads with easy access to 81/481 and all points north, south, east, west.

From how I've heard it, I assume it was looked at early and likely dismissed as too expensive / slow process with all the land/properties that would have to be acquired.

It would be a Brilliant location though.
 
GoSU96 said:
That's helpful.;)

I'm pulling your chain.

It was also meant to say there was no sarcasm.
 
I have read both topics on this and haven't seen the most important aspect of this rumor/renovation: brick facade???? that would be the icing on the cake!!!
 
Jeepers said:
I think it'd be pretty hard to convert an ex-stadium into an academic building (talking in the future). Well, not so much hard, but not worth the extra work pre-planning. You rarely see buildings repurposed like that (Hearst Tower?). Easier, and cheaper, to just start over. If they repurposed the original dome, there'd be no windows. If you repurposed the (possible) new "glass" roof, you have a massive vault underneath. If it's a dome reno, makes me think the dome will be staying put for a long, long time.

Could the new exterior have windows?
 
Ernj said:
I have read both topics on this and haven't seen the most important aspect of this rumor/renovation: brick facade???? that would be the icing on the cake!!!

Brick facade? Sounds like future academic building to me. :)
 
I have zero in on the university plans, but the most likely reason the south campus deal is dead because I know the state is not interested in enhancing 481/81 and adding another exit before they know the final plan on the future of 81. It's not a guarantee traffic would be better if immediately moved to south.
 
absolutely not. A rumor I've heard - but seems to be dead - is the concept of acquiring land along Ainsley drive where the university already owns properties.

Putting a stadium there with ample parking / tailgating.

Keeping Skytop (which is currently expanding its parking capacity). Ainsley drive is turned into a sports complex and the Brighton Ave interchange gets beefed up to handle increased loads with easy access to 81/481 and all points north, south, east, west.

From how I've heard it, I assume it was looked at early and likely dismissed as too expensive / slow process with all the land/properties that would have to be acquired.

It would be a Brilliant location though.
Interesting. Here's a google view of the area -- showing how close this would be to 481. Much improved ingress/egress. Looks like there's an expanded parking lot already in place, and a large cleared area. Unfortunately, it might be (30 years) too late for this site, since new construction creates more issues than it solves: 1) if soft roofs are no longer practical, any new facility would need a hard roof (a Dome renovation requires only the roof); and 2) what happens to the Dome? Has to be an enormous cost to deconstruct it and convert it to other uses.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zeKkZzICcOUk.ka6lHXpjnKv4&hl=en

(click on photo at bottom left to get aerial view)
 
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Look at what Maryland is doing with Cole Fieldhouse. That is one way the Dome could be multipurposed to include academics. Sports management, Falk stuff, Newhouse stuff, new sports science institute, physical therapy and rehab school, or even research institute. Just needs some forward thinking. Make it rehab and reach out to the military for musculoskeletal research, prosthetic design, TBI rehab. The options are there and that is the mechanism for additional funding.
 
NJCuse97 said:
Look at what Maryland is doing with Cole Fieldhouse. That is one way the Dome could be multipurposed to include academics. Sports management, Falk stuff, Newhouse stuff, new sports science institute, physical therapy and rehab school, or even research institute. Just needs some forward thinking. Make it rehab and reach out to the military for musculoskeletal research, prosthetic design, TBI rehab. The options are there and that is the mechanism for additional funding.

To tag onto your mention of Falk, I posted about a year ago about what I had heard was one possibility. Without going through everything, one consideration was a building on the Irving side attached to that end of the Dome. Would include offices, restaurant, shops, media room and would house sports management. At the time I wondered if Falk would help with some of the costs.

Also I could see some Newhouse stuff. I don't know where it stands but in the next few years people were talking about an SPM-Newhouse joint program. Probably some experiential thing.

Don't know if all of that has gone by the wayside or if it's been tweaked.
 

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