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MLB 2022 Lockout


Prince Fielder maybe?
 
MSOrange said:
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Jim went to LeMoyne. Pretty good pitcher.

But he hit .088 for his career. 33 singles in 440 plate appearances. 0 doubles. 0 triples. 0 home runs.

Believe he is an announcer for the Cubbies now.
 
STEVEHOLT said:
Literally because it’s an older demographic and they might die
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Plus the games are getting harder and harder to watch. Pace of play is too slow; too many relief pitchers, and it's all a game of strikeout, walk or home run. It's like Home Run Derby. Compared to when I first became a fan, around 1970 or so, the ball very rarely gets put into play.

Analytics has taken away so many elements of the game, like the hit-and-run and double steal, hitting the opposite way, bunting, stealing a base. It's like that's all "quaint" now, and the game has become obsessed with velocity and launch angles.

I would rather watch golf, which I never would have said 10 or 20 years ago. And I've never golfed in my life. That's a bad sign for baseball when even old-time fans are bored with your product.
 
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HOF-level stars who were derailed by injury

Talent and hard work aren't the only elements of a Hall of Fame career. Longevity is important, too, and it is a factor that unfortunately has eluded many players who were otherwise on track to be enshrined in Cooperstown. Here is a look at some star players whose Hall of
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IthacaMatt said:
Plus the games are getting harder and harder to watch. Pace of play is too slow; too many relief pitchers, and it's all a game of strikeout, walk or home run. It's like Home Run Derby. Compared to when I first became a fan, around 1970 or so, the ball very rarely gets put into play.

Analytics has taken away so many elements of the game, like the hit-and-run and double steal, hitting the opposite way, bunting, stealing a base. It's like that's all "quaint" now, and the game has become obsessed with velocity and launch angles.

I would rather watch golf, which I never would have said 10 or 20 years ago. And I've never golfed in my life. That's a bad sign for baseball when even old-time fans are bored with your product.
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It’s starting to slowly turn though. Analytics is like any other endeavor involving information. The more you have , the more you tweak it. Teams are realizing that analytics doesn’t exist in a vacuum but must be adjusted based on numerous factors . Sac bunting will never come back because it’s incredibly stupid .. bunting for hits .. now that’s a cool play we need to see more of
 
STEVEHOLT said:
Sac bunting will never come back because it’s incredibly stupid .. bunting for hits .. now that’s a cool play we need to see more of
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Yeah, unless it was the pitcher bunting, it was like giving up an out. But the guys who could drag bunts down the first baseline and practically outrun the ball; those were fun plays. I also used to love those rare occasions when guys tried to steal home.
 
cuseattle said:
www.mlb.com

HOF-level stars who were derailed by injury

Talent and hard work aren't the only elements of a Hall of Fame career. Longevity is important, too, and it is a factor that unfortunately has eluded many players who were otherwise on track to be enshrined in Cooperstown. Here is a look at some star players whose Hall of
www.mlb.com www.mlb.com
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Really good list - some names I hadn't thought of in awhile. Fun fact on Eric Davis - my uncle drew his blood when he was taken to the hospital in Oakland after he injured his kidney in the 1990 World Series.
 
Herb Score, the Cleveland Indians left-hander who seemed destined for the Hall of Fame only to have his career ruined when a line drive struck him in the face in one of baseball's most frightening incidents, died Tuesday in Rocky River, Ohio. He was 75.Nov 11, 2008

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Tough to play right field in DC for 350 mil over 13 years.

The owners suck, they money is all screwed up, and Boras is the worst.
 
If I am the PA I don’t agree to a cap unless the minimum floor cap was 90% of the maximum.

Make Tampa/Oakland/KC/Miami spend a 180 million if the Boston/Nyy/LA can only spend 200 million.

Owners wouldn’t agree to that then they would have to all spend money.

The NFL system works because all the teams share TV revenue. In MLB its all about local TV deals which only a portion get shared.

The national money gets shared equal but that is a fraction of the revenue.

MLB owners and Manfred suck.
Manfred is worse than Goodell.
I dislike Goodell more but Manfred is the problem.

Owners want to break the players.

The players will sit out.

The sport will suffer.

The middle class in baseball has been destroyed.
Make FA after 4 years and players would get paid in the primes more.

After 6 years players who aren’t elite aren’t going to get paid.
Have more 25-26 year old FAs and teams will pay longer contracts.
 
MSOrange said:
Really good list - some names I hadn't thought of in awhile. Fun fact on Eric Davis - my uncle drew his blood when he was taken to the hospital in Oakland after he injured his kidney in the 1990 World Series.
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Boy, if that happened now some of it would be on sale on the web that night
 
IthacaMatt said:
Plus the games are getting harder and harder to watch. Pace of play is too slow; too many relief pitchers, and it's all a game of strikeout, walk or home run. It's like Home Run Derby. Compared to when I first became a fan, around 1970 or so, the ball very rarely gets put into play.

Analytics has taken away so many elements of the game, like the hit-and-run and double steal, hitting the opposite way, bunting, stealing a base. It's like that's all "quaint" now, and the game has become obsessed with velocity and launch angles.

I would rather watch golf, which I never would have said 10 or 20 years ago. And I've never golfed in my life. That's a bad sign for baseball when even old-time fans are bored with your product.
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I used to be so into baseball. Orioles were my team. My parents took me to see them vs NYY when Reggie was an Oriole. Ripken is my favorite player, but the Robinson “brothers”, Palmer, Murray, Belanger are all right there. I would chose my HS Jersey number for the year based on where I was going to play: 2nd base (Bobby Grich): 3rd base (Brooks); or SS (Mark Belanger)
I went to Ripken’s last 3 games.
Now, my excitement is who will the Orioles draft. I might watch 1/2 inning when I scroll on the TV.

They are doing some pace of play changes, but I don’t think it’s enough.
(To go to the analytics issue, what if baseball changed the rule so that so ANY ball over the wall was a double? Go to a 4 ball, 2 strike rule. That would stop people from trying to work for walks. I hope the robot balls and strikes work.
For the history folks, the would just be a new “era” like we actually have now for the time period since the “dead ball” era. )
 
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OrangeXtreme said:
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the real reason there is a lockout is because the luxury tax timed out .. so owners were afraid certain big money teams would go crazy signing big ticket free agents due to no luxury tax

The real battle in baseball labor is owner vs owner with players as a proxy. Owners must be saved from themselves and they use the players to do that
 
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