MLB 2022 Lockout

[donniesyracuse]

any metric you want.. because if players were paid a max a 1 mill a yr that would still be stupid money for 99% of the population and the play would be just as good but more people would be able to attend and enjoy it..

That’s based on the false premise that if players made less, tickets would be cheaper. In my world, if an owner can get away with charging $100, he will charge $100 regardless of what Manny Machado makes.

 

[IthacaMatt]

They already have leases, with the teams.

If your tenant dissolves or goes bankrupt, it's a violation of almost every lease. The owners could be left holding a lot of (empty) bags.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[MSOrange]

Inside the self-inflicted crisis boiling over as MLB's lockout deadline arrives

The disastrous outcome of losing Opening Day to a work stoppage is on the verge of becoming reality. Here's how years of missteps led to this moment.

www.espn.com

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Inside the self-inflicted crisis boiling over as MLB's lockout deadline arrives

The disastrous outcome of losing Opening Day to a work stoppage is on the verge of becoming reality. Here's how years of missteps led to this moment.

www.espn.com

Do I really want to read this?

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

any metric you want.. because if players were paid a max a 1 mill a yr that would still be stupid money for 99% of the population and the play would be just as good but more people would be able to attend and enjoy it..

#1, you cannot assume that all the same players would go into the sport if the max was $1M a year.
#2 - if you are jealous of what they make, then you should have gone and played MLB. Oh, that's right, you don't have the talent.
#3, if George Clooney limited his income to $1M per movie, a lot more people could go to the movies.
#4 - if we paid doctors and nurses a lot less money, more people could go to the hospital.
#5 - if we paid grocery and department store employees and farmers and truckers, a lot more people could buy a lot more stuff
#6 - all of the money that is not made by people now cannot be spent in the economy, hurting incomes all around.
# 7 - why do you assume that the tickets would be less if the salaries were less? In any major league city, they have a monopoly on the product.

Many people (certainly not all) who "can't afford" to go to a game have prioritized their disposable income differently. What they really want is more disposable income.

Who are you to be the arbiter of who makes too much money? Learn to worry about what you make, and not about what other's make. Life is easier that way.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

If your tenant dissolves or goes bankrupt, it's a violation of almost every lease. The owners could be left holding a lot of (empty) bags.

My point was, the stadium owners cannot just let others use the facility on dates that are contracted for with the tenant. (The OP was that players ought to get together and want to have a game in a non-team owned stadium. You can't do it without the consent of the tenant, whether they are using the facility or not.)

 

[upperdeck]

#1, you cannot assume that all the same players would go into the sport if the max was $1M a year.
#2 - if you are jealous of what they make, then you should have gone and played MLB. Oh, that's right, you don't have the talent.
#3, if George Clooney limited his income to $1M per movie, a lot more people could go to the movies.
#4 - if we paid doctors and nurses a lot less money, more people could go to the hospital.
#5 - if we paid grocery and department store employees and farmers and truckers, a lot more people could buy a lot more stuff
#6 - all of the money that is not made by people now cannot be spent in the economy, hurting incomes all around.
# 7 - why do you assume that the tickets would be less if the salaries were less? In any major league city, they have a monopoly on the product.

Many people (certainly not all) who "can't afford" to go to a game have prioritized their disposable income differently. What they really want is more disposable income.

Who are you to be the arbiter of who makes too much money? Learn to worry about what you make, and not about what other's make. Life is easier that way.

1) how this can be true since almost everyone who goes into the sport never makes a million
2) honestly.. dont think talent was the issue
3) movie prices have barely gone up over the course of 100 years and you dont pay crazy prices to go see a movie.
4) what?
5)i agree. we vastly underpay for unskilled labor and thats why out souring over seas in the long run has hurt companies more than its saved them money
6) no idea
7) prices have gone up/demand has gone down/

lots of people in MLB cities instead of going to 40-80 games now go to 10-20 because of pricing. same for NHL/NBA

 

[MSOrange]

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Eh, I'll get over it.

 

[MSOrange]

 

[IthacaMatt]

My point was, the stadium owners cannot just let others use the facility on dates that are contracted for with the tenant. (The OP was that players ought to get together and want to have a game in a non-team owned stadium. You can't do it without the consent of the tenant, whether they are using the facility or not.)

It's not that hard to do. Concert promoters do it every single year, working around the existing sports schedule for any particular arena.

 

[kirbivore]

Cancel anyway to send a message

 

[MSOrange]

 

[Alsacs]

Why play 162 games for 14 teams to make the playoffs. It’s utterly ridiculous. If they want 14 teams in the playoffs then cut the season to 120 games. The postseason in baseball is supposed to be a reward.
The NHL or NBA. Play half the games and have a 16 team playoffs. Major league baseball owners are the worst.
This is a situation where players Need to hold the line. I don’t care if we lose a season.

The owners can’t win.

 

[donniesyracuse]

Why play 162 games for 14 teams to make the playoffs.

You know the answer.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

You know the answer.

Not only does 14 teams mean more TV revenue for the owners , but it paradoxically will lead to less spending as you can literally luck your way into the post season at that number .. so why spend more to be great ?

 

[STEVEHOLT]

1) how this can be true since almost everyone who goes into the sport never makes a million
2) honestly.. dont think talent was the issue
3) movie prices have barely gone up over the course of 100 years and you dont pay crazy prices to go see a movie.
4) what?
5)i agree. we vastly underpay for unskilled labor and thats why out souring over seas in the long run has hurt companies more than its saved them money
6) no idea
7) prices have gone up/demand has gone down/

lots of people in MLB cities instead of going to 40-80 games now go to 10-20 because of pricing. same for NHL/NBA

I think you should make less money because I just feel that way

 

[MSOrange]

Not only does 14 teams mean more TV revenue for the owners , but it paradoxically will lead to less spending as you can literally luck your way into the post season at that number .. so why spend more to be great ?

That's exactly a point I just read and why the players wanted 12.

 

[MSOrange]

 

[upperdeck]

I think you should make less money because I just feel that way

i got that covered..

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[KellySyracuse]

 

[KellySyracuse]

Why can't we have nice things? I was looking forward to baseball since SU basketball across the board has been frustrating following a dismal football season.