Move Rex

[sufandu]

Rex is taking the lumps the coaches don't want the freshman to take. With no spring and an abbreviated preseason, none were ready to be the backup coming into the season. An article that was posted in another thread stated it is common for the 1st team QB to take about 85% of the practice reps and the 2nd team guy to take the rest. Because of Covid that had to be Rex, unless one of these guys was a superstar. I doubt any of them are because they were our plan B's and C's. So none of them were going to be ready this year.

Are we seriously saying the best thing for them mentally and psychologically is to throw them to the wolves?

 

[sufandu]

It is smart to give him packages. Its also helps to have a freshman that can make every throw. DJ obviously been getting 2nd team reps since the summer.

And when you have TL as a junior three year starter, you can sacrifice some reps at practice to give to the backup.

 

[money3189]

Rex is taking the lumps the coaches don't want the freshman to take. With no spring and an abbreviated preseason, none were ready to be the backup coming into the season. An article that was posted in another thread stated it is common for the 1st team QB to take about 85% of the practice reps and the 2nd team guy to take the rest. Because of Covid that had to be Rex, unless one of these guys was a superstar. I doubt any of them are because they were our plan B's and C's. So none of them were going to be ready this year.

Are we seriously saying the best thing for them mentally and psychologically is to throw them to the wolves?

Kid just started getting 2nd team reps in this offense 3 weeks ago. The whole function of this offense is ran through the QB. The kid is probably having a hard time just remembering the hand signals. lol

 

[OmahaCuse]

Rex is taking the lumps the coaches don't want the freshman to take. With no spring and an abbreviated preseason, none were ready to be the backup coming into the season. An article that was posted in another thread stated it is common for the 1st team QB to take about 85% of the practice reps and the 2nd team guy to take the rest. Because of Covid that had to be Rex, unless one of these guys was a superstar. I doubt any of them are because they were our plan B's and C's. So none of them were going to be ready this year.

Are we seriously saying the best thing for them mentally and psychologically is to throw them to the wolves?

Yes other teams are doing it.

 

[OmahaCuse]

I mean, maybe we could do some wildcat stuff with him at TE and Morgan at QB or something but nah, let’s not move him to TE.

I can’t believe that was even said at this point in the season

So you like having a QB that throws three pics and fumbles a few times a game? Just curious what your solution is? Why would me move Elmore back to FB or DL mid season or Lutz from slot to RB?

 

[sufandu]

Yes other teams are doing it.

They are? What freshman that weren't on the two deep to start the season are now starters for their team despite having an upperclassman on the roster? Of those teams, which have had as much trouble on the oline as us?

 

[OmahaCuse]

They are? What freshman that weren't on the two deep to start the season are now starters for their team despite having an upperclassman on the roster? Of those teams, which have had as much trouble on the oline as us?

GaTech and Sam Howell both true freshman starters. Kid from Clemson. Can never win that argument due to the oline comment. Maybe we should run wildcat as some teams have done with a bad QB.

 

[OmahaCuse]

College Football's True Freshman QB Revolution Is Stronger Than Ever

Nine true freshman quarterbacks have started at least one game at quarterback so far this season and several of them are leading their teams to significant victories. We should only be expecting this trend to flourish.

ROSS DELLENGERSEP 19, 2019

 

[MadNY3]

Maybe the play is to move Rex back to TE and let the two Frosh split time. It’s clear Rex is not a QB and our chances to win don’t go up. Also why don’t we just cut summers and move on.

It isn't clear that people we haven't seen are ready. Morgan is out there, yes, but to move Rex to TE at this point is foolish versus working in some packages that Tayson Hillize him for gimmickery...though Dino may not want to tip his hat on this before game six in 2022.

 

[Chip]

So you like having a QB that throws three pics and fumbles a few times a game? Just curious what your solution is?

Maybe the solution is that he’s just a backup QB and trying to help the young guys along?

Is there a law that says he has to be on the field?

 

[sufandu]

GaTech and Sam Howell both true freshman starters. Kid from Clemson. Can never win that argument due to the oline comment. Maybe we should run wildcat as some teams have done with a bad QB.

None of those guys match the description I posted.

The kid from Clemson was second string from the start and therefore has been taking snaps with the first and second team offense since the preseason. He was also the #1 rated QB coming out if high school and had all of the talent around him that Clemson provides. They also had the benefit of having an elite starter with lots of experience with his OC, so they were able to give the back up more snaps since TL clearly has exxellent chemistry and command of the offense. That's a stupid example.

Sam Howell is a sophomore. As a freshman he won the starting job during a normal preseaon. Top 100 recruits that are ranked in the top 5 at their position tend to do that. Then as the established starter he took the bulk of the reps in practice once his team got into a normal in season schedule. Another stupid example.

Jeff Sims was another highly ranked recruit, top 250 overall top 10 dual threat qb, that beat out other inexperienced guys in the preseason. So he has also been taking the bulk of the reps with his first team offense since throughout the preseason.

So you named higher ranked players that entered the season on the two deep. Given their recruiting rankings, our freshman are very likely less talented and were not good enough to be on the two deep in front of upperclassmen that both came into the season with multiple spring practices and game experience. Until TD got hurt they were all on the scout team, which is normal for your 3rd and 4th string QBs. As such, neither were getting any reps with our offense. None. The situations are completely different. If you can't see that, you're blind.

 

[SuFTW]

Smart by Dabo to get kids ready. I know they have big leads but still smart to work QBs in for a series or two during a game

Must have learned that from Dino a few years ago when he gave Devito playing time during Dungey’s senior year.

 

[OmahaCuse]

None of those guys match the description I posted.

The kid from Clemson was second string from the start and therefore has been taking snaps with the first and second team offense since the preseason. He was also the #1 rated QB coming out if high school and had all of the talent around him that Clemson provides. They also had the benefit of having an elite starter with lots of experience with his OC, so they were able to give the back up more snaps since TL clearly has exxellent chemistry and command of the offense. That's a stupid example.

Sam Howell is a sophomore. As a freshman he won the starting job during a normal preseaon. Top 100 recruits that are ranked in the top 5 at their position tend to do that. Then as the established starter he took the bulk of the reps in practice once his team got into a normal in season schedule. Another stupid example.

Jeff Sims was another highly ranked recruit, top 250 overall top 10 dual threat qb, that beat out other inexperienced guys in the preseason. So he has also been taking the bulk of the reps with his first team offense since throughout the preseason.

So you named higher ranked players that entered the season on the two deep. Given their recruiting rankings, our freshman are very likely less talented and were not good enough to be on the two deep in front of upperclassmen that both came into the season with multiple spring practices and game experience. Until TD got hurt they were all on the scout team, which is normal for your 3rd and 4th string QBs. As such, neither were getting any reps with our offense. None. The situations are completely different. If you can't see that, you're blind.
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College Football's True Freshman QB Revolution Is Stronger Than Ever

Nine true freshman quarterbacks have started at least one game at quarterback so far this season and several of them are leading their teams to significant victories. We should only be expecting this trend to flourish.

ROSS DELLENGERSEP 19, 2019

 

[OmahaCuse]

College Football's True Freshman QB Revolution Is Stronger Than Ever

Nine true freshman quarterbacks have started at least one game at quarterback so far this season and several of them are leading their teams to significant victories. We should only be expecting this trend to flourish.

ROSS DELLENGERSEP 19, 2019

 

[FrancoPizza]

I think the idea is just moving him somewhere if he really wants to come back and play next year, honestly it doesn't matter where.

close. The intent is to move him anywhere because he has no real position at this level and won’t play any meaningful snaps next year regardless. Milton we’re going to have to move you to the basement.

 

[sufandu]

College Football's True Freshman QB Revolution Is Stronger Than Ever

Nine true freshman quarterbacks have started at least one game at quarterback so far this season and several of them are leading their teams to significant victories. We should only be expecting this trend to flourish.

ROSS DELLENGERSEP 19, 2019

Again, how many of them were not on the two deep when the season started?

Also, that post is from 2019. If you can't see any differences between 2019 and 2020, you are still blind.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

This is an interesting stream of consciousness.

Please do go on.

Exactly, feel better now? Getting the 2nd ranked QB in the country "ready" is very similar to what we are working with. Just when you thought you had seen it all

 

[OmahaCuse]

Again, my point here is get the two Frosh playing time to get ready for next year. That included reps in practice. You would agree this is a lost year and better to go to a youth movement. i would not expect great results but rather drink from a firehose and see flashes and learning. just my opinion from a outside perspective and may be blind. We will find out.

 

[sufandu]

Again, my point here is get the two Frosh playing time to get ready for next year. That included reps in practice. You would agree this is a lost year and better to go to a youth movement. i would not expect great results but rather drink from a firehose and see flashes and learning. just my opinion from a outside perspective and may be blind. We will find out.

Maybe your argument was just getring them reps, but that wasn't how the discussion started. The discussion was sitting Rex and only playing the freshman. If we want to Andrew Robinson them, that's a great idea. Freshman don't get ready going from the scout team to starting in the middle of a season. They get ready in the spring, summer, and preseason.

I'm all for whichever one the coaches think is most ready right now getting some reps in limited time with Rex taking the bulk of the punishment. I'm even fine with doing some of it before the game is out of hand as long as they're spoon fed, not force fed. Force feeding will happen in the spring.

 

[UD1954]

Four year scholarship is lock...5th year is a invite and some 4 year players currently on the roster probably won't be invited.

 

[Redrum]

We had More practice time than usual this summer with the walk through workouts we had prior to camp .

 

[baggerbob]

Bear, I'm getting old and maybe my mind is playing tricks on me, but I thought the ACC made a policy decision to have four year scholarships.

The Power 5 conference's made the scholarship 4 years.

 

[tipphill]

Easy to do when you have a good lead late in the game or you know you will win easy.

easy to do when you do not have a qb who is up to the task (even though the ol has not been either). go ahead start rex, see if he is playing well. if not put someone else in.

 

[OmahaCuse]

They are? What freshman that weren't on the two deep to start the season are now starters for their team despite having an upperclassman on the roster? Of those teams, which have had as much trouble on the oline as us?

So, any comments on his performance?

 

[sufandu]

So, any comments on his performance?

I thought he looked good. He showed some good instincts and natural play making ability. I wonder if may have been able to work his way into the back up role had we had a normal off season.