Nate Oats vs. Coach Hop Thread

[chugg21]

I'm cool with either of them. Think Oats has started to move ahead in my personal choice.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

I'm cool with either of them. Think Oats has started to move ahead in my personal choice.

Yup. They would both be good. But for different reasons.

 

[HuskyHooper]

Hop finished in last place in a bad conference with two first round picks.

Hop and UW are 0-2, and just scored 42 points in a loss to UC Riverside.

 

[Sherman20]

At this point in time, and up until JB gives up the throne, who is the better fit for Syracuse moving on from the JB era?

We do not need speculation into other HC’s in this thread. This is purely a constructive conversation surrounding the two mentioned HC’s.

This is a tough one. I think they’re both dynamic recruiters and have great recruiting relationships in the Northeast and mid-Atlantic areas, so they could bring in high-end talent here. Hop is a great fit for SU because he knows the school inside and out and has already built key relationships with the various constituencies, but Oats appears to be succeeding a bit better as a head coach (or rather has more momentum). That said, they’re both very early in their careers. Hop had great early success at Washington but last year was rough. Let’s hope he can turn it around this season and next, because we’d want him to have momentum and buzz coming into taking the SU job. Otherwise Oats might be the better choice, if he truly ends up finding sustained success at Bama.

 

[HuskyHooper]

This is a tough one. I think they’re both dynamic recruiters and have great recruiting relationships in the Northeast and mid-Atlantic areas, so they could bring in high-end talent here. Hop is a great fit for SU because he knows the school inside and out and has already built key relationships with the various constituencies, but Oats appears to be succeeding a bit better as a head coach (or rather has more momentum). That said, they’re both very early in their careers. Hop had great early success at Washington but last year was rough. Let’s hope he can turn it around this season and next, because we’d want him to have momentum and buzz coming into taking the SU job. Otherwise Oats might be the better choice, if he truly ends up finding sustained success at Bama.

Yes he can recruit out East. Not out west. He’s likely all yours after next season.

 

[Sherman20]

Yes he can recruit out East. Not out west. He’s likely all yours after next season.

It’s crazy to say but I don’t think JB is going anywhere til he’s at least 80, especially if he can get the recruiting pipeline humming again and he feels he can still win. He could even be coaching into his early 80s, depending on his health and energy levels. We have long since entered uncharted territory here.

 

[SUFan44]

if we had to make a hire tonight, it would be red. full stop.

Is that your hire, Boeheim's hire, or Wildhack's hire?

 

[NineOneSeven]

It’s crazy to say but I don’t think JB is going anywhere til he’s at least 80, especially if he can get the recruiting pipeline humming again and he feels he can still win. He could even be coaching into his early 80s, depending on his health and energy levels. We have long since entered uncharted territory here.

Zombie'ing it up!

 

[PhatOrange]

Oats

 

[CuseTG2003]

I don't think it's a given Oats would leave Alabama to come here. They're investing heavily in the program.

 

[moqui]

Except in this case we are currently married to the beautiful celebrity and fantasizing about replacing her with the homeless lady on the corner for some strange reason.

boeheim has lost 15 games exactly once in 44 seasons, and there's folks on this board who can't wait to push him out for a dude who has lost 15 games in 3 of his 5 seasons

 

[FloridaFan]

It’s crazy to say but I don’t think JB is going anywhere til he’s at least 80, especially if he can get the recruiting pipeline humming again and he feels he can still win. He could even be coaching into his early 80s, depending on his health and energy levels. We have long since entered uncharted territory here.

We are about 30000 leagues under the sea now

 

[alphaorange]

oh god

Guaranteed winner but not one of the choices...

 

[hoopsupstate]

If Alabama wants Oats, SU can’t afford him.

 

[Bulldog04]

Calls will go as follows - Hop, someone on SU bench, Oats, another long shot candidate like Mark Few and then Greg Paulus (if he does well). Beilein Jr was going to get a call but with that turmoil that’s over and Paulus is replacing him with that Hail Mary call. I’ve been told Mark Few will be in consideration but is going to take a big pay day. Hop is my choice BC he deserves to have a chance based off his loyalty to program and what was suppose to happen

 

[Wrinkle]

this is like fantasizing which celebrity is going to replace your spouse someday.

we have a guy in the chair who is still better than either of those guys will ever be

We're not talking about getting rid of JB. We're talking about replacing the king when he chooses to abdicate

 

[Briancuse]

Hop finished in last place in a bad conference with two first round picks.

Hop and UW are 0-2, and just scored 42 points in a loss to UC Riverside.

Getting blown out by baylor is one thing you cannot lose to uc riverside.

 

[Trueblue25]

Guaranteed winner but not one of the choices...

Im aware theres multiple reasonable additional candidates, but I find the comparison of these two to be the most interesting and the most often brought up.

 

[syrBossHogg]

I would think Hop will be the more realistic option

 

[NineOneSeven]

Believe it or not... Jim Boeheim will not coach forever. Whenever the day comes, it’s going to be one heck of a celebration (not BECAUSE he’s no longer the coach, but rather because of what he has meant to SU), and a monumental moment for the program. Can’t imagine what the standing O will be like!

Again... he is not coaching FOREVER, even if sometimes it seems like he could be related to Lord Elrond.

 

[ar inj]

Not Hop. Just like Guthrie at UNC. A great assistant. Head coach? Not so much based on the available evidence to date. That shipped has sailed.
Oats? He might be looking to retire by the time a call needs to be made. Who else is out there?

 

[cuseinseattle]

I don't like Oats.

 

[jgeorge322]

Why not both? Co-head coaches. Lets be different.

 

[kcsu]

Hop will win the popular vote but Oaks takes the electoral.
Jimmy starts tweeting fraud and sends Gmac to present his case to the Wild who tires of it all and names Red HC.

 

[cuseattle]

Not Hop. Just like Guthrie at UNC. A great assistant. Head coach? Not so much based on the available evidence to date. That shipped has sailed.
Oats? He might be looking to retire by the time a call needs to be made. Who else is out there?

Bill Guthridge wasn't that bad. 2 final fours in his three years and a national coach of the year award.
Matt Doherty sucked pretty hard.