NBA Thread 2022-23 Season

[OrangeDW]

Need borderline elite role guys to win rings

KCP has done it twice now. Gotta respect it.

 

[orangefog]

KCP has done it twice now. Gotta respect it.

Is he going to be the next Robert Horry?

 

[MikeSU02]

Need borderline elite role guys to win rings

That second apron creating a de facto hard cap is going to make this so much more interesting.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

That second apron creating a de facto hard cap is going to make this so much more interesting.

I know this is going to sound crazy but... I think you're going to see contending teams really push to get their draft picks ready for rotation minutes sooner.

 

[jordville]

 

[MikeSU02]

 

[orangefog]

Yikes, when he jags off, I bet he barely gets a pint.

 

[jordville]

 

[NailstheCusefan12]

Any other Cuse fans who never had an NBA team and became a Denver fan because of Carmelo having a great night? Just me? Eh whatever I’ll love Nikola Jokic forever and what an incredible team

 

[Day2]

A lot of advanced stats tend to value bigs greater than guards. I don’t disagree that Gordon has been great(especially on defense), but the Nuggets have no other ball handling guards or wings besides Murray.

They also were swept and gentlemanly swept the last two years without Murray and with Gordon in the lineup. I think you’re undervaluing him a bit.

They lose without him because, like you say, he’s the only ball handling guard they have. If they ever trade him or let him walk, they’ll bring in a true replacement. It’s different than when a player gets hurt.

 

[MSOrange]

 

[Melancer46]

MPJ is on my list with Jordan Poole. At least he rebounds but he’s literally asleep on defense.

I’d rather have Poole because he at least creates off the dribble and is a decent passer when he wants to be. Porter is a guy I would need to be incentivized to take on my team.

 

[Melancer46]

I know this is going to sound crazy but... I think you're going to see contending teams really push to get their draft picks ready for rotation minutes sooner.

Feels like they have to right? It’s about to be so much more difficult to justify paying role playing vets.

The thing that might ultimately prevent this is that the market for those vets might just disintegrate, leaving guys like Bruce Brown and KCP to take super cheap contracts to stay employed. Kinda feels like all role players may turn into the running back of the NBA.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Because he is a second generation entitled moron.

The class envy on this board is discouraging, at best.

 

[OrangeDW]

Porter = a rich man’s Donte Greene.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Feels like they have to right? It’s about to be so much more difficult to justify paying role playing vets.

The thing that might ultimately prevent this is that the market for those vets might just disintegrate, leaving guys like Bruce Brown and KCP to take super cheap contracts to stay employed. Kinda feels like all role players may turn into the running back of the NBA.

Yeah a lot of decent guys are probably going to have to accept vet minimums contracts. If a team can't appeal to those guys, developing draft picks and two way guys into consistent role players is the most obvious route to team controlled talent.

 

[MikeSU02]

Yeah a lot of decent guys are probably going to have to accept vet minimums contracts. If a team can't appeal to those guys, developing draft picks and two way guys into consistent role players is the most obvious route to team controlled talent.

They are adding a third two way spot for rosters with the new cba.

Also means there will be less spots for basically friends of superstars or favors for agents.

 

[Cusefan0307]

 

[Cusefan0307]

 

[Newhouser]

Sorry for belaboring this but how do you NOT foul in a 5 point game with 9 seconds left when you have timeouts and your opponent has been terrible at the line and your entire season is hanging in the balance?! You play your hearts out for two months and can’t play for 3 more minutes? FFS

you are 100% correct. Did anyone ask Spoelstra? Even more important the way Denver was missing FT's. Excellent post. I think the media and the announcers are so sold on the Spo genius that they don't question anything. Heat did not have any sideline advantage in this series.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

They are adding a third two way spot for rosters with the new cba.

Also means there will be less spots for basically friends of superstars or favors for agents.

Rosters will look more like the NFL. Just a few guys getting paid.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Interesting wrinkle.

 

[Newhouser]

I’d rather have Poole because he at least creates off the dribble and is a decent passer when he wants to be. Porter is a guy I would need to be incentivized to take on my team.

I agree Poole is better off the dribble but in a push - which I think this is - give me the 6'10 guy.

 

[Newhouser]

Yeah a lot of decent guys are probably going to have to accept vet minimums contracts. If a team can't appeal to those guys, developing draft picks and two way guys into consistent role players is the most obvious route to team controlled talent.

isn't that why Denver just made a trade last week - get more draft picks now to try and supplement their bench during this championship window. Think they have 150 million accounted for in their starters - they need to land contributors like Braun every year.

 

[Melancer46]

Rosters will look more like the NFL. Just a few guys getting paid.

Bill Simmons brought up a really interesting point with the new luxury tax. I tend to think Josh Giddey is overrated in league circles, but Simmons was saying it's pretty reasonable that in a couple years, Giddey, Shai, and Chet Holmgren will all have to be paid the max and was basically saying if any of their other 30 first round picks pan out in a big way, they literally won't be able to keep the team together (if OKC's owners are even okay getting close to that new tax number to begin with, which is questionable).

So idk if the OKC example is actually a good one, but the overall point that the new tax makes it more difficult to simply stockpile picks as a rebuilding team was really interesting to me. It used to be a question as to whether or not teams had enough roster spaces to use all their draft picks; now it'll be a question of whether or not it's worth it to even try in the first place because it'll be impossible financially once those rookie contracts end.