NC ST Opens A 4.5 Point Favorite

[TheCusian]

If the OL and offense aren't coached this week to get the ball out quick and are prepared for the best DL we will have faced all season this week I will be scared to touch this line. NC State doesn't have much of a passing game, but their running game is solid and Doeren is a decent coach. We can beat this team if its a low scoring game in the 20s, but I want to see our team better prepared this week.

I'm not worried about our run defense or a strong DL. Our weakness is our secondary and our receivers. Running teams will find it difficult to score points.

 

[dollarbill44]

Meant saying its a road game so not sure what to expect from this team if we evenly matched or not

A little punctuation goes a long way.

 

[dollarbill44]

Agree STO 100%, I think we are toast. The bottomline is this team just isn't very good, talent, coaching etc. I think we have a shot to win 5 no more than that. Cant see us beating Nc ST, Ga Tech or Maryland. I say we win 2 of 3 versus Wake, NC and or Pitt, Pitt actually looks good this year. 4 wins.

It's not the fans that need to worry about their loser mentality. Like I said, I hope I am wrong. I actually though we might compete a bit on Saturday having two weeks to prepare. The first TD by Clemson was truly disheartening

At least you're consistent with your "rosy" outlooks.

 

[Alsacs]

I'm not worried about our run defense or a strong DL. Our weakness is our secondary and our receivers. Running teams will find it difficult to score points.

I wasn't talking our DL the NC State DL is the best DL we will have faced this year and they will pressure Hunt. If the coaching staff doesn't have the OL and QB ready for their good DL men I will be ticked and we will get housed. NC State's offense will be run heavy if their starting QB remains out, and that will help our defense.

 

[TheCusian]

I wasn't talking our DL the NC State DL is the best DL we will have faced this year and they will pressure Hunt. If the coaching staff doesn't have the OL and QB ready for their good DL men I will be ticked and we will get housed. NC State's offense will be run heavy if their starting QB remains out, and that will help our defense.

Right. I may have worded that poorly.

I'll take a run heavy team vs our run defense all day.

I'm not all that worried about pressure on Hunt. The guy runs pretty well and has good pocket presence. The O-line is okay. A strong running game can make a pass rush ineffective.

What worries me is our WR's.

 

[CuseLegacy]

State has released an updated depth chart for Saturday fwiw...
Still no Mitchell at QB but does show Rashard Smith.

2013 NC State Depth Chart
Offense
Quarterback
4 Pete Thomas 6-6/234 Jr.*
14Bryant Shirreffs OR 6-3/220 Fr.
5Josh Taylor 5-11/185 Fr.
Halfback
10 Shadrach Thornton 6-1/203 So.
26 Tony Creecy OR 5-11/210 Jr.*
21 Matthew Dayes 5-9/213 Fr.
Fullback
43 Ryan Cheek OR 6-0/235 Sr.*
47 Tyler Purvis 6-2/229 Jr.*
"Z" Receiver
2 Rashard Smith 5-9/179 Sr.*
9 Travares Copeland 5-11/187 So.
"X" Receiver
88 Quintin Payton 6-4/211 Sr.*
1 Marquez Valdes-Scantling OR 6-3/201 Fr.
85 JuMichael Ramos 6-3/198 Fr.
"F" Receiver
80 Bryan Underwood 5-9/177 Jr.*
13 Bra'Lon Cherry 5-11/180 Fr.
Tight End
82 Asa Watson 6-3/237 Sr.
86 David J. Grinnage 6-5/267 Fr.*
Left Tackle
54 Joe Thuney 6-5/286 So.*
73 Andy Jomantas 6-7/295 Jr.*
Left Guard
62 Duran Christophe 6-5/300 Sr.*
50 Cameron Fordham 6-2/294 Jr.*
Center
60 Quinton Schooley 6-4/285 So.
59 John Tu'uta 6-2/311 Fr.*
Right Guard
71 Alex Barr 6-7/326 So.*
61 Ali Kassem 6-7/338 Jr.
Right Tackle
74 Tyson Chandler 6-7/334 Jr.*
72 Patrick Roane 6-7/310 Fr.


Special Teams
Place Kicker
32 Niklas Sade 6-3/212 Jr.
99 Ryan Stevens 6-3/190 So.
Punter
36 Wil Baumann 6-6/190 Jr.
47 Will Stephenson 6-3/181 Fr.*
Long Snapper
57 Scott Thompson 5-11/233 Jr.
52 Ben Garnett 6-0/225 So.
Holder
36 Wil Baumann 6-6/190 Jr.
Kick Returner
2 Rashard Smith 5-9/175 Sr.*
Punt Returner
2 Rashard Smith 5-9/175 Sr.*
Defense
Defensive End
95 Art Norman 6-0/250 Jr.*
97 Forrest West 6-1/251 Sr.*
Nose Tackle
69 Thomas Teal 6-1/303 Jr.*
94 Monty Nelson 6-2/310 Fr.
Defensive Tackle
75 T.Y. McGill 6-1/293 Jr.
70 Carlos Gray 6-3/296 So.*
Defensive End
90 Mike Rose 6-3/252 So.*
46 Drew Davis 6-3/232 Fr.*
Weakside Linebacker
39 Brandon Pittman 6-2/224 Jr.
42 M.J. Salahuddin 6-2/227 So.
Middle Linebacker
48 Robert Caldwell 6-3/250 Sr.
49 Zach Gentry 6-1/233 Sr.*
Strongside Linebacker
31 D.J. Green 6-4/228 Sr.
5 Rodman Noel 6-4/215 Jr.
Right Cornerback
11 Juston Burris 6-1/203 So.*
21 Niles Clark 5-11/188 Fr.*
Strong Safety
38 Hakim Jones 6-2/203 So.*
6 Tim Buckley 6-0/200 So.*
Free Safety
14 Jarvis Byrd 5-10/190 Sr.*
24 Josh Stanley 6-0/198 So.*
Left Cornerback
25 Dontae Johnson 6-2/195 Sr.
29 Jack Tocho 6-1/195 Fr.

 

[OrangeCrush22]

Coupled with the fact that this team is struggling mightly against FBS competition, NC State is a tough place to play. I sure hope we win, or our bowl hopes are likely down the drain.

 

[CuseLegacy]

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Crisp is still out for Syracuse.

 

[Bayside44]

We have played three BCS opponents and are 0-3 with two blow outs and a loss to what now appears to be a very mediocre PSU. Our secondary has been so bad I just dont have much optimism. I was hoping the NW game was just a bad day but Saturday showed me different, I hope Im wrong but I now think 4-8 is what were looking at

Did you see NW verses tOSU? If ever a team should move up after a loss it would be them.

But honestly, this schedule was so bizarre to this point and with a QB switch I really have no idea what to expect this Saturday.

 

[ImperialOrange]

Anyone else feel like NC State is Penn State part 2? Redemtion time I hope.

 

[Ithacaorange]

Get the ball out quick?

You can't get the ball out quick to a 160 lb WR who has a 5 star corner who is 6 ft 190 lbs and strong as hell draped all over him, or a 6 ft 180 WR who has no moves or hands and can't get off a jam against the same body type as mentioned above. Or a 6 ft 200 lb WR with no speed who doesn't seem to want to compete.

If your blaming hunt for the passing wows, I think you're wrong.

 

[ZoneAttack]

Anyone else feel like NC State is Penn State part 2? Redemtion time I hope.

I hope you are right, but I think NCST is greater than PSU. Plus we are playing a true road game. PSU was a neutral field.

 

[ImperialOrange]

I hope you are right, but I think NCST is greater than PSU. Plus we are playing a true road game. PSU was a neutral field.

I thought so too but NC State's qb likes to chuck it to the other team so could be interesting. Suppose that depends on whom we have to suit up at CB on Saturday.

 

[CuseOnly]

We have played three BCS opponents and are 0-3 with two blow outs and a loss to what now appears to be a very mediocre PSU. Our secondary has been so bad I just dont have much optimism. I was hoping the NW game was just a bad day but Saturday showed me different, I hope Im wrong but I now think 4-8 is what were looking at

You do realize that 1 team is #3, one team is ranked inside the top 20 at #19, and PSU when we played them was just outside the top 25.

I am not sure that any team in the BCS has played a tougher schedule. If one has please show me.

 

[690West]

Line has moved up to -6 some places.

 

[GoSU96]

NCST just lost by 15 to one of the worst offenses in the AQ conferences. They love their current QB so much they might play a kid that has been in a boot for the last month and has a handful of game snaps.