NCAA investigating Arizona / Sean Miller

[moqui]

With all this stuff swirling around the UA program, how in the H*** do they still have the #1 recruiting class?

I spend a lot of time in Tucson. It's a beautiful place. But it has 3% African American population. They haven't won an NC in over 20 years. And the Pac 12 is a train wreck. What gives?

coaches lie to assure kids & their parents that they've done nothing wrong and anyway the ncaa moves slowly & they will be in the nba before any sanctions come down

 

[longtimefan]

coaches lie to assure kids & their parents that they've done nothing wrong and anyway the ncaa moves slowly & they will be in the nba before any sanctions come down

Your second point is salient. If you are recruiting one-and-dones (and many [most?] kids think they are), you can honestly tell them that there's a good chance that they will be gone to the pros before it hits the fan.

 

[Madbiker]

Arizona and Kansas will be hit as hard by NCAA as was North Carolina.
It's a club ---- and we ain't in it.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Arizona and Kansas will be hit as hard by NCAA as was North Carolina.
It's a club ---- and we ain't in it.

Kansas maybe.

Arizona is more like us. I think they get hit hard.

 

[djorange1989]

maybe there is a reason besides the sanctions and Hopkins leaving that our recruiting has suffered recently: we aren't on that list of cheaters, and when you see the classes these cheaters are pulling in (Arizona, USC etc) it explains a lot

 

[Orangello]

Keep an eye on the Mizzou situation, I have a feeling they will challenge the NCAA's penalties in court. The NCAA's attempt to distinguish UNC from the situation at Mizzou is laughable. Once again, never ever self-report. That's the lesson.

Nobody knows whether to cooperate with the NCAA

 

[Hoo's That]

Funny that the Yahoo article listing schools above doesn’t include Miami at all.

I know. I don't know how that could be since I distinctly remember at least one article that mentioned Larranaga was involved because it was discussed both here and on our board. We're mentioned because we were recruiting Quinerly(?) and we're unbelievably glad he went somewhere else.

 

[kingtidge]

maybe there is a reason besides the sanctions and Hopkins leaving that our recruiting has suffered recently: we aren't on that list of cheaters, and when you see the classes these cheaters are pulling in (Arizona, USC etc) it explains a lot

Why / how is zona in "the club"??

 

[PeteCalvin]

I hope the NCAA burns to the ground over this...and takes UNC Basketball with them.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[pfister1]

Must make AZ fans feel a great sense of relief. He’s being disciplined, but it’s not related to their felon former coach Book Richardson or the ongoing NCAA investigation.

Wait, that means there is something more going on there?

 

[RF2044]

Must make AZ fans feel a great sense of relief, he’s being disciplined, but it’s not related to their felon former coach Book Richardson or the ongoing NCAA investigation. Wait, that means there is something more going on there?

...or maybe he's the fall guy.

 

[Cusesky8214]

Not related to the fbi stuff.

 

[Cusesky8214]

 

[Cusesky8214]

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

Why is their roster so crappy? Did a couple guys get hurt or something. I looked at a box score to see who they had and there key guys are transfers from Samford. Pitt, UNC Ashville.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Why is their roster so crappy? Did a couple guys get hurt or something. I looked at a box score to see who they had and there key guys are transfers from Samford. Pitt, UNC Ashville.

They lost Quinnerly to Nova and Shaq’s son to UCLA after the accusations came out. Unfortunately Shaq’s son had heart surgery and is out until next year.

 

[SUOrangeSU]

Why is their roster so crappy? Did a couple guys get hurt or something. I looked at a box score to see who they had and there key guys are transfers from Samford. Pitt, UNC Ashville.

They had to get grad transfers to fill the roster

 

[Col. Bleep]

This guy is such an arrogant__$%_$_^__!

The next two questions should have been:

Could you please tell the taxpayers of Arizona how much of their money you spent on recruits?

And

What's your preference: orange or black and white striped jumpsuit?

Asking the Tough Questions (But Not Getting and Answer)

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Wow - this is an impressive list. In terms of enforcement, I almost worry it is too many schools. How are they going to have the resources to investigate it all? If all our guilty, it will damage college basketball, is the NCAA going to go that far? If it were a handful of schools that were the most egregious offenders, then they could focus more on those. And it would be realistic to sacrifice a couple of programs for the sake of teh sport. I'll nominate Duke and Kentucky as those schools

Well, UNC and Duke won't be investigated.

 

[supp]

For a journalist, Goodman has a shockingly poor command of the English language. He writes like he's an ESL student. Make a move with or against Miller?

 

[Hoo's That]

This guy is such an arrogant__$%_$_^__!

The next two questions should have been:

Could you please tell the taxpayers of Arizona how much of their money you spent on recruits?

And

What's your preference: orange or black and white striped jumpsuit?

Asking the Tough Questions (But Not Getting and Answer)

This not a defense of Sean Miller, but the answer to this question for Miller and every other coach at a state school is $0.00 State money does not fund athletics. There are laws against that. Using state money is a very quick way for the athletic department people and the academics to end up in jail. And for Miller, there would be less than zero sympathy from the Arizona State and Northern Arizona alums in their government.

 

[jgeorge322]

This not a defense of Sean Miller, but the answer to this question for Miller and every other coach at a state school is $0.00 State money does not fund athletics. There are laws against that. Using state money is a very quick way for the athletic department people and the academics to end up in jail. And for Miller, there would be less than zero sympathy from the Arizona State and Northern Arizona alums in their government.

I have a feeling this is factually incorrect and is highly dependent on how you spin the numbers. Don’t state universities subsidize their athletic departments. If so, isn’t that public money that was given to the school that was then given to the athletic department? Does a middle man make the answer to the question $0.00? I say no.

 

[dollarbill44]

This not a defense of Sean Miller, but the answer to this question for Miller and every other coach at a state school is $0.00 State money does not fund athletics. There are laws against that. Using state money is a very quick way for the athletic department people and the academics to end up in jail. And for Miller, there would be less than zero sympathy from the Arizona State and Northern Arizona alums in their government.

Hmm, i don't know about that. The money may come from different pools, but there are examples of state universities using general funds to pay for athletic expenses. How else would programs run annual deficits year after year (Rutgers, UConn, etc)? In the end it's all fungible and up to the ethics of the people in charge, really, regardless of what an audit may show or what you can prove in court.