Yes. Very prominent dealer.Wasn't there a certain car dealership, in certain central NY city, that gave certain players, free use/ownership of vehicles? I'm certain someone told me that. (Dunno if true)
I think the Alston case could make that illegal. Legally, that may just be a re-wording, with the same violation. Bill would make it a violation of the players rights... Illegal. At least that's my understanding.To me the NCAA has a solution. Shift the focus away from the player to the school. If a schools policy allows a player to be compensated outside of the guidelines set by the NCAA the school loses its membership in the NCAA. This will allow schools who wish to pay players on a different basis to do so while maintaining more of am amateur status for schools that wish to remain members.
Just because a person has the ability to participate at or in an organization doesn't give them the right to. For instance i graduated with an honors degree from HS. I wanted to attend an IVY league school. I wasn't accepted.
If im a HS athlete and i want to profit from selling my likeness or get paid based on any criteria that is fine as long as i attend a school that allows that.
Liberty University has strict conditions regarding its social policies such as the use of alcohol. If im a person and im 21 living in VA and i want to drink and go to college i can. Just not at Liberty University.
So my point is simple. If the NCAA focuses soley on the governance of the institution vs the individual it can control this situation.
Not if you make it an institutional vs individual rule that applies to All Student Athletes. My daughter is athlete at Loyola of Chicago. If her GPA falls below a certain level she is free to remain in school but she has her aid taken away and cant play. Its simple. Institutions have significant latitude in the rules they subject members to. Be it a club, school, association as long as those rules dont discriminate.I think the Alston case could make that illegal. Legally, that may just be a re-wording, with the same violation. Bill would make it a violation of the players rights... Illegal. At least that's my understanding.
Even Wildhack admitted that the model may be due for creative changes. (I don't believe that's an endorsement to straight up pay the players, though)
Ok. I just believe the NCAA has been hiding behind the same rule. At least when it comes to a players likeness, there may be legal precedence, that the player is entitled to it. (I'm think the EA sports ruling , where the settlement had each player getting $600)Not if you make it an institutional vs individual rule that applies to All Student Athletes. My daughter is athlete at Loyola of Chicago. If her GPA falls below a certain level she is free to remain in school but she has her aid taken away and cant play. Its simple. Institutions have significant latitude in the rules they subject members to. Be it a club, school, association as long as those rules dont discriminate.
I don't buy that argument, personally. Exhorbitant salaries in MLB haven't hurt the business model.(being boring, may have... )What happens when the TV $$ crater due to public rejection of
junior NBA or NFL play?
My point is to make it the schools policy and have the schools policy in synch with membership in the NCAA.Ok. I just believe the NCAA has been hiding behind the same rule. At least when it comes to a players likeness, there may be legal precedence, that the player is entitled to it. (I'm think the EA sports ruling , where the settlement had each player getting $600)
The CBS money goes strictly for paying expenses at NCAA championship events at the various levels. So, yes, the D-3 field hockey players get to fly and stay in a nicer hotel than they would have otherwise when they're in the playoffs. No CBS money goes toward anything in any school's regular season in any sport. 60 years ago, there weren't any NCAA championships in any women's sport, or men's lacrosse for that matter, so the expenses were somewhat less than they are now. Men's lacrosse still has what's been called the "Two Flight Rule" which causes the bracket to be reshuffled to limit travel to two plane flights in the first round.{snip}
and CBS paying a ton of money is why these kids are flying to games and staying in nice hotels and eating fancy food on top of free education.. go back 60 yrs, we still had championships and kids got way less nice stuff and schools footed most of the bills.
There used to be institutional child labor policies, indentured servitude, etc... Laws were put in place to stop that. I think the ruling/bill would be an attempt to give players the legal rights, regardless of ANY institutions policies.My point is to make it the schools policy and have the schools policy in synch with membership in the NCAA.
Heck Doug M had facial hair policy for the football team. If a kid wants to endorse a business, get paid to be in a video game or come to practice dressed as Hitler let them as long as the school allows it. However if that school wants to belong to the NCAA and its against that associations rules they wont be admitted.
Players don't have to be employees to the University or the NCAA for Joe's Auto World to want to pay them for their likeness.So the players are employees? If that's the case, they would be entitled to the same labor laws. Insurance, unemployment, etc... Therein lies the problem...
And yes, entertainers are allowed to make $$ off of their likeness .
It's a can of worms. Either way, rulings/legislation may decide that very shortly.
In which case expect every school to secede from the NCAA.To me the NCAA has a solution. Shift the focus away from the player to the school. If a schools policy allows a player to be compensated outside of the guidelines set by the NCAA the school loses its membership in the NCAA. This will allow schools who wish to pay players on a different basis to do so while maintaining more of am amateur status for schools that wish to remain members.
Just because a person has the ability to participate at or in an organization doesn't give them the right to. For instance i graduated with an honors degree from HS. I wanted to attend an IVY league school. I wasn't accepted.
If im a HS athlete and i want to profit from selling my likeness or get paid based on any criteria that is fine as long as i attend a school that allows that.
Liberty University has strict conditions regarding its social policies such as the use of alcohol. If im a person and im 21 living in VA and i want to drink and go to college i can. Just not at Liberty University.
So my point is simple. If the NCAA focuses soley on the governance of the institution vs the individual it can control this situation.
People give up rights all the time. Work for company A, you can't work elsewhere. Invent something for your company, it owns the patent. Same with a scholarship.I think the Alston case could make that illegal. Legally, that may just be a re-wording, with the same violation. Bill would make it a violation of the players rights... Illegal. At least that's my understanding.
Even Wildhack admitted that the model may be due for creative changes. (I don't believe that's an endorsement to straight up pay the players, though)
Thats a bet that you should never make.In which case expect every school to secede from the NCAA.
Getting paid for your likeness is usually a contract between the company paying and the person's likeness being used.People give up rights all the time. Work for company A, you can't work elsewhere. Invent something for your company, it owns the patent. Same with a scholarship.
It's part of the contract. I think the NCAA, not Congress, should do something.Getting paid for your likeness is usually a contract between the company paying and the person's likeness being used.
What company is he working for? Certainly not the school, not the NCAA, not the league, he is working for the advertiser or company paying them, kind of like a modeling contract or a contract for an appearance.
Any conference or school that limits that would immediately be relegating themselves to the bottom, kids would just go elsewhere.
Any attempt to cap that or schools getting together to limit it could be considered collusion and they would be back in court.
Point is they aren't working for company A.
Taxes will suck for them should this pass...
Not having money sucks a lot worse than paying taxes on income.
Congress may give the NCAA anti-trust protection.Judge rules NCAA can't cap athlete compensation 'related to education,' neither side happy with decision
Wilken ruled the NCAA was in violation of antitrust law regarding compensation for football and men's and women's basketball players.
But only sort of...
Hadn't heard that.Congress may give the NCAA anti-trust protection.