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NCAA Tournament Selection Discussion - Bubble Talk, ACC Teams, #1 Seeds, whatever you want to say

Briancuse said:
Can we finally put the nail in the indiana coffin?
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Not yet. They are not in great shape and not high as of now, but they still have a few lifelines,

- If Auburn and FSU loses today
and
- No bubble busters (Miami wins MAC, Utah St wins MVC, VCU/St Louis wins A-10)
- Random committee decisions

If those all happen, Indiana's chances would go up... less than 50/50, but not minimal either.
 
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Updated consensus standings based on 32 brackets updated today. Seems to be a fairly solid consensus. That being said the 4 teams above the line, are susceptible to bubble busters.

SMU 32 (out of 32)
Texas 30
VCU 30
Auburn 27
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New Mexico 4
Indiana 3
San Diego St 1
Oklahoma 1
 
jncuse said:
Not yet. They are not in great shape and not high as of now, but they still have a few lifelines,

- If Auburn and FSU loses today
and
- No bubble busters (Miami wins MAC, Utah St wins MVC, VCU/St Louis wins A-10)
- Random committee decisions

If those all happen, Indiana's chances would go up... less than 50/50, but not minimal either.
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They have 14 losses and just lost to nw team with a losing record. Their resume isn't that special.
 
jncuse said:
Updated consensus standings based on 32 brackets updated today. Seems to be a fairly solid consensus. That being said the 4 teams above the line, are susceptible to bubble busters.

SMU 32 (out of 32)
Texas 30
VCU 30
Auburn 27
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New Mexico 4
Indiana 3
San Diego St 1
Oklahoma 1
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Miami OH will be the most intriguing team Sunday for sure.
 
Relevant Games Today

Auburn vs Q1 Tennessee 3:00

Utah St vs UNLV 3:00 (Utah St not winning would result in a bubble buster)

Florida St vs Q1 Duke 7:00

Oklahoma vs Q1 Texas A&M 9:30 (not sure if it would be nearly enough for Oklahoma, but the next game could)

New Mexico vs San Jose St

Miami loses to UMass ... Bubble Buster or Not? Not sure.
 
NineOneSeven said:
Miami OH will be the most intriguing team Sunday for sure.
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No doubt,
It will be the most debated low-major in a long time. 1 loss, no matter the schedule, I don't think has ever been on the bubble in my memory.

Usually the mid-majors are from more stellar conferences like the MVC/WCC. Not many teams from the MAC as at large candidates.
 
NineOneSeven said:
FWIW I think they should be in for sure. Auburn?? Give me a break.
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I’m not the biggest fan of Auburn .. I’ll rely on consensus for placing them there. But of the 4, they seems like the least quality to me.

Not sure who I would put above Auburn that was currently below the line, but hopefully Miami solves that problem.
 
Florida St up 1 against Duke with 11 minutes to go.

If they can pull it off there resume becomes intriguing.
 
My feeling on Miami is "We just don't know and can't be definitive either way"

We know the committee has never been kind to viable at large contenders that are outside of the top 10 conferences,... these don't pop up each year, but when they do it doesn't tend to work out. But they may have an extra quality win or two, but they aren't 31-1 either. And the reasons are "SOS" / "Quality Wins", as if there comparing apples vs apples, which is absurd. They will be able to find excuses from the past that they can point do and say the are excluding in order to be consistent. Not saying its right.

As of now the argument is probably Miami vs Indiana/Auburn. I think Miami can win that one.

But the issue for Miami becomes if Utah St doesn't win the MWC... or if there is a bubble buster in the A-10.
 
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Here are the only remaining possibilities as we enter Friday that could change the bubble discussion. Only team remaining on the outside, that could get into at-large bid discussion is Oklahoma. Georgetown, Ole Miss, and Seton Hall, remain around as bid stealers.


#1. A-10 Bubble Buster: St Louis (11:30) and VCU (7:00) start this week in A-10 QuarterFinals to block a bid from being stolen.

#2. BE Semi's Seton Hall in BE Semi's against St. John's (5:30) and Georgetown vs UConn (8:00) - Theoretically the Hall and Georgetown could win the Big East and steal a bid. Seton Hall with a win today, could get discussed by the committee for an at-large, but I'm sure they would be dismissed. They are 21-11, NET of 53, but with only Q1 win against NC ST, they don't have enough.

#3. Ole Miss (14-19) in SEC Quarter-Finals against #15 Alabama (7:00) - Extreme longshot at a bid steal, but in theory could happen.

#4. Utah St vs Nevada in MWC Semifinal (9:30). Utah St trying to protect the current at-large field, so that there is no bid stealer from the MwC.

#5. Oklahoma vs Q1 Arkansas in SEC QuarterFinals (9:30). With a win today Oklahoma, seriously enters the at-large discussion.
 
Miami is 31-1

I mean come on. Auburn 17-16? What a joke.

Stop playing the regular reason then!
 
St. Louis is looking pretty awful...would be a major shakeup! Our friend Trey Autry has 14 pts in the first half
 

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