NCAA Violations?

[Full_Rebar]

They can't promote any commercial venture- even if it isn't compensated...you know except for Nike and all the other corporate partners of the NCAA who make money off of their name and likeness.

 

[All4SU]

The issue is the posing with signs promoting companies, and having those pics tweeted out. Not the show. It gives the appearance of a commercial endorsement.

 

[OrangeTarheel]

Players can't use their likeness to promote a company (unless its the NCAA).

What's a little funny about this is that football is one of a few sports where the player's face cannot be seen under their helmet. The average fan wouldn't know either of these guys if they met them on the street and out of uniform. If there weren't other visual clues in that room who would know what is going on?

 

[Chip]

Players can't use their likeness to promote a company (unless its the NCAA).

What if you play for a school where 85% of the fanbase probably doesn't recognize your face? Is there a magic #?

 

[llandz]

Secondary violation. And I was going to post the link to the article when in came out, but the article contains pictures of the twitter post, and I figure the less that picture gets reproduced, the better. So I was not going to do anything to put the pictures on this site. Also the newspaper could have left the pictures out since they were quickly deleted from the twitter post. This is not meant to hide anything, but not to further distribute the photos in violation. The quicker the photos are held in check probably the softer the penalty.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Players can't use their likeness to promote a company (unless its the NCAA).

Holding one of several signs is promotion?

Good thing these guys don't have any logos on their uniforms while their games are broadcast then.

 

[baggerbob]

• It really is time to burn the stupid rule book , and start over like Jay Bilas has said, with a simple set of rules that make sense.

 

[Trueblue25]

Is this some sort of joke?

If they are suspended for any amount of the game I just don't know what I'll do.

Broyld and Smith are the only real parts of our offense that can effectively influence the opposing defenses plays and lineup.

 

[sufandu]

• It really is time to burn the stupid rule book , and start over like Jay Bilas has said, with a simple set of rules that make sense.

The problem is the way people manipulate "simple rules". If you don't spell things out to the most minute detail, people find and exploit loopholes. When someone tries to close the loopholes, people complain the rulebook is too thick. There really is no winning in this situation. Ultimately the people to blame are the coaches, players, and boosters that exploited to simple rules in the past.

 

[PhatOrange]

This is so petty and stupid it's laughable.

Its not as if these guys were on air reading advertisements and making promotional appearances. Someone took candid photos and posted them to twitter. This is really a violation ? Doesn't seem like it's in the spirit of the rule.

 

[buffalorange]

The station screwed up.
I can see them taking a picture of the players in front if the station's sign and the show's banner for their own scrapbook. The pictures should never have been posted anywhere. They took advantage of the players.

I suspect that players won't be allowed to go to that studio anymore. The show's producer, who was thrown under the bus, could lose his job.

As for penalties... community service and/or missing the first quarter of next year's opener would likely be in order. I'd hate to see the players and team suffer due to a third party's screw up.

Let's see how fast the NCAA acts on this compared to how long it takes for them to rule on an eligibility issue for a player.

 

[Moontan]

I've never even heard of this show. I listen to UFR all the time, but I don't have a clue when this show is even on.

Friday afternoons... 6:00-7:00, I believe.

 

[CuseGrad94]

No way there will be any game time missed for this! Holding a sign up for a radio show that 250 people listen too and them posted on Twitter? No way no how.

 

[Louie and Bouie]

Probably is because syracuse.com made sure to make everyone aware

Had they not wrote the article how many people would have seen that?

and if one "witty" blog reporter hadn't posted the pics all over twitter then syracuse.com wouldn't have been aware either. the same blogger that now takes offense as to possible penalties being handed out.

 

[TBCuse11]

The show's host, Bristol, showed very little class in throwing his 'producer' (a just graduated student from a no name college in PA who formerly worked as a clerk in an auto dealership) under the bus in the response to this. You take responsibility for your product. Instead he names this producer and Rhodes who was hosting and just denies culpability. What you say is that some people on my staff made some mistakes and I didn't catch them so you can blame me.

Agreed on Bristol. What a really pathetic dude he is. I have listened to the show a couple times mainly because Devo hosts alot and I am a fan, but other than that the show is pretty ho-hum. They just lost one of their 200 listeners... not because of the mistake they made, but because of the total lack of class shown by Bristol. Now there is a guy that u NEVER want to be in a fox hole with. Scum.

 

[OrangeAl]

Fair penalty: make them sit out media day 2014. That'll teach them.

 

[Ottawa Orange]

Letter of apology maybe? No money was made, these kids don't look like they're having anyone's idea of fun, clearly they were set up to do this (w/o ill intent).

No kidding - their facial expressions look like those of hostages in an Al Qaeda video. One would imagine that a letter of apology would more than suffice...

 

[Bill Orange]

"The weekly show is hosted by Bristol, who lists himself as the official publicist for Syracuse basketball coach Jim Boeheim and a representative of men's lacrosse coach John Desko."

Seeing that Bristol can't even issue a well crafted statement on this situatiuon, if I am Jimmy and John, I'd think twice about this guy representing me going forward.

 

[SUFan44]

Should absolutely not be any penalty for this nonsense.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

"The weekly show is hosted by Bristol, who lists himself as the official publicist for Syracuse basketball coach Jim Boeheim and a representative of men's lacrosse coach John Desko."

Seeing that Bristol can't even issue a well crafted statement on this situatiuon, if I am Jimmy and John, I'd think twice about this guy representing me going forward.

Might explain why Hop got his own agent.

 

[Cusefan95]

• It really is time to burn the stupid rule book , and start over like Jay Bilas has said, with a simple set of rules that make sense.

Compensate the athletes for their labor. people that want to pretend it would be a couple thousand dollars a year are insane - if players got paid straight cash homie, universities would stop funneling revenues into building training facilities better than what they have in the NFL and would start spending that money on recruiting better athletes.

It would probably kill Olympic sports, but it'd be far more moral than the nonsense of amateurism that is used now.

 

[Cusefan95]

The problem is the way people manipulate "simple rules". If you don't spell things out to the most minute detail, people find and exploit loopholes. When someone tries to close the loopholes, people complain the rulebook is too thick. There really is no winning in this situation. Ultimately the people to blame are the coaches, players, and boosters that exploited to simple rules in the past.

Nope. The rules are the problem. It's that simple.

Any system that depends on banning a free market system will always lead to black markets, and will always be corrupt. Amateurism as a concept is a fairy tale that only people that have no grasp of economics believe in. I'd trust an adult that believed in Santa Claus before I'd trust an adult that believes in amateurism.

Lots of rules, simple rules, doesn't matter - the entire system is based on a lie. As a result, it can never work.

 

[sufandu]

Nope. The rules are the problem. It's that simple.

Any system that depends on banning a free market system will always lead to black markets, and will always be corrupt. Amateurism as a concept is a fairy tale that only people that have no grasp of economics believe in. I'd trust an adult that believed in Santa Claus before I'd trust an adult that believes in amateurism.

Lots of rules, simple rules, doesn't matter - the entire system is based on a lie. As a result, it can never work.

So the people suggesting a new rule book are wrong too. Forget all of the rules and call it what it is, professional sports. The best players go to the highest bidders.

 

[orangepack]

"Bristol said the show posts pictures of former Syracuse players when they appear, but it does not post pictures of current players because of NCAA rules. Bristol said his producer got confused because nearly all his guests are former players."

Just checked out the Syracuse Legends Twitter and there are multiple pics of Ennis, BJ Johnson, and Jerome Smith on there so that's a lie Mr. Bristol.

 

[mountaincuse]

I've only listened to the show when our happened to be on and not on purpose (he does the inside high school sports show too, right?).

Never cared for his personality, seemed arrogant, demeaning to his staff, and full of himself based on my limited listen. Guess this proves that.