New OL Coach- Joe Adam

[tep624]

Can I ask a dumb question? Are we sure Adams is going to coach OL?

Why bother asking something like that? Best just to assume and complain, something our fanbase excels at.

 

[orangechef]

I don't know how good of a coach this guy will be, nor do any of you, and that is a fact. That being said, before any of us lose our minds over this hire, take a look at the Auburn HEAD coaches resume. Auburn just played for the National Championship, and has a higher recent profile, football wise than Syracuse does. They hired Gus M. to be their HEAD coach, not a position coach, their HEAD coach. I do not have his bio right in front of me at the moment, but he was coaching high school football not all that long ago, and the rest of his experience is not all that extensive or impressive to say the least. Things seemed to work out pretty well for Auburn regarding that hire. None of us know how well this will work out, change is scary, because we care, we get nervous, that's normal. I personally have to put and keep my faith in the wisdom and knowledge of HCSS. Things seemed to work out pretty well for Syracuse regarding that hire!

 

[cuseguy]

Ouch. Feels like a major downgrade. I'll admit that sentiment is unfair since I'm basing it off nothing but what's linked here, but I think it's pretty clear that Perles was pretty good and the best case scenario here is 'young up-and-comer'.

Just wondering why Perles would go to the CFL. Talk about irrelevant. Something odd there.

 

[RoofBeam]

For the reasons you state, I would not be thrilled if Adam were hired as OL coach. For similar reasons, I thought Hackett was an even worse hire.

That is a ridiculous comparison.

A College basketball staffs player to coach ratio is unreal to begin with. And he was promoted from GA when Fine left if I'm not mistaken, with Hopkins and Autry ahead of him.

And nobody is saying that Adams isn't qualified to coach at a BCS school. The question is is a guy that has never coached the OL anywhere in a position to succeed when his first time doing it is in the ACC?

The Lester comparison is a joke. Lester played the position at a very high level, he was the QB coach at a MAC school before being a successful HC for four seasons. He was completely qualified for the position he holds today.

I don't think there is anybody on the staff, other than Brotski, and he's not a coach, that has played, let alone coached it at this point.

Let's just say, it's a risky move. If the guy is coming in as TE coach, makes all the sense in the world, but this, not so much.

 

[CaliCuse]

many great HC's have the exact opposite mindset when it comes to building a coaching staff

I strongly agree about the importance of the O-L coaching. Recruiting that position is a small second. If you bring in quality it makes the job far easier to cget done. "Coaching up" is possible but I prefer the coach to smooth off the rough edges rather than having to start from scratch. I think that Joe Adams passes the famous look test if nothing elsehttp://www.elmhurstbluejays.com/coaches.aspx?rc=283

 

[All4SU]

I was going to leak this story yesterday.

 

[Whitey23]

I don't know how good of a coach this guy will be, nor do any of you, and that is a fact. That being said, before any of us lose our minds over this hire, take a look at the Auburn HEAD coaches resume. Auburn just played for the National Championship, and has a higher recent profile, football wise than Syracuse does. They hired Gus M. to be their HEAD coach, not a position coach, their HEAD coach. I do not have his bio right in front of me at the moment, but he was coaching high school football not all that long ago, and the rest of his experience is not all that extensive or impressive to say the least. Things seemed to work out pretty well for Auburn regarding that hire. None of us know how well this will work out, change is scary, because we care, we get nervous, that's normal. I personally have to put and keep my faith in the wisdom and knowledge of HCSS. Things seemed to work out pretty well for Syracuse regarding that hire!

Auburn hired Malzahn as a HEAD coach after 4 state titles, 6 years as a FBS OC in the SEC and Conference USA and one year as a head coach at Arkansas St. Not to mention the guy is an offensive whiz.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gus_Malzahn

Just a ridiculous comparison (but not as bad as the Gerry McNamara comparison)

 

[tep624]

Just wondering why Perles would go to the CFL. Talk about irrelevant. Something odd there.

His wife is from Ontario and he previously coached in the CFL for 7 years - maybe they wanted to be closer to her family. Nothing odd about that.

 

[tep624]

Auburn hired Malzahn as a HEAD coach after 4 state titles, 6 years as a FBS OC in the SEC and Conference USA and one year as a head coach at Arkansas St. Not to mention the guy is an offensive whiz.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gus_Malzahn

Just a ridiculous comparison (but not as bad as the Gerry McNamara comparison)

HC from Arkansas St. to HC at Auburn is a MAJOR leap. If we hired our next HC from a FBS school this place would go nuclear and that's about the same comparison.

 

[cuseguy]

His wife is from Ontario and he previously coached in the CFL for 7 years - maybe they wanted to be closer to her family. Nothing odd about that.

Thanks for clearing that up. Makes more sense.

 

[All4SU]

We already know that McDonald will coach the WRs. Maybe Adam is a Special Teams coach. Or maybe there will a little shifting of responsibilities.

 

[Whitey23]

HC from Arkansas St. to HC at Auburn is a MAJOR leap. If we hired our next HC from a FBS school this place would go nuclear and that's about the same comparison.

If a HS coach guaranteed us landing the Gatorade, USA Today and Parade Magazine National Player of the Year, as well as an EA Sports All-American, All-American, At their request, this network is being blocked from this site. All-American first team, Arkansas Associated Press Super Team, Arkansas Democrat-Gazette All-Arkansas Co-Offensive Player of the Year and Northwest Arkansas Morning News Player of the Year and he won 4 state titles in the south with his offense I bet we'd get over it fairly quick.

(along with his #1 TE and #1 & #2 WRs)

 

[TheCusian]

I have no way to judge this guys coaching ability to Perles. None.

It's a young guy vs a grizzled old veteran. There are benefits to each.

In Shafer, I trust.

 

[PhatOrange]

This guy could be TE coach, or special teams coordinator or just coach the centers. Might end up being a bulldog recruiter. Who the hell knows. I don't mind it. Seems like a solid up and comer.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I am always suspicious of a man with two first names. Always.

 

[TheCusian]

If a HS coach guaranteed us landing the Gatorade, USA Today and Parade Magazine National Player of the Year, as well as an EA Sports All-American, All-American, All-American first team, Arkansas Associated Press Super Team, Arkansas Democrat-Gazette All-Arkansas Co-Offensive Player of the Year and Northwest Arkansas Morning News Player of the Year and he won 4 state titles in the south with his offense I bet we'd get over it fairly quick.

I highly doubt that. There would be some major hand-wringing, bordering on bed-wetting. That's what we do.

 

[Full_Rebar]

Why are people pushing for Eric White to be hired as a coach? I would assume his career path would be operations/player development.

As for this hire, I think some concern is warranted, but it's worth it to see where Adam ends up coaching and if this is covering for the impending loss of Smith.

 

[anomander]

This guy could be TE coach, or special teams coordinator or just coach the centers. Might end up being a bulldog recruiter. Who the hell knows. I don't mind it. Seems like a solid up and comer.

McDonald - So Fla
Bullough -WNY/NE
Lester - Ill/N. Fla
Smith - Ill
Adams - Ill
Daoust - PA
Lea - Georgia
Reed - VA

Whatever position he coaches we'll find out no big deal. How good of a coach he is, we will find out as well. However something about the list above doesn't add up. Either Smith is gone, or we are planning on recruiting specifically in the midwest.

 

[OttoForLife]

In Shafer I Trust.

Jeez...tough crowd here.

 

[javadoc]

Excited to learn about his mid Atlantic/ NYC recruiting ties.

While waiting on confirmation that (1) he was hired, and (2) what his coaching role really is, two things:

Folks are going to have to get used to the fact that Shafer generally prefers to hire guys he has worked with, or who can be vouched for by other guys Shafer has worked with. He's not going to go looking at other BCS schools, or even MAC schools, and try to hire away just anyone. Regardless of what you as a fan think makes a potential coach attractive, if he isn't from the Shafer tree, he's only going to get a look after the tree has been exhausted. That probably applies to recruiting territory also.

Guy has experience as a recruiting coordinator. This gives us a guy to fill in for Daoust when he moves on to take a DC position sometime sooner than later.

 

[PhatOrange]

Gotta start somewhere right?

"Adam spent three seasons coaching at Grand Valley State University where he was a part of two NCAA Division II Championships. While at Grand Valley State, Adam served one year under Brian Kelly, now head coach at the University of Notre Dame and two seasons under Chuck Martin, the current offensive coordinator at Notre Dame. Adam was a part of Grand Valley's national championship teams in 2003 and 2005."

 

[CuseOnly]

Do we have any confirmation that Smith is leaving other than an article saying that he was recommended for a position at Wisconsin?

 

[Whitey23]

Do we have any confirmation that Smith is leaving other than an article saying that he was recommended for a position at Wisconsin?

no

 

[OrangePA]

what is going on is starting to concern me...we are losing coaches for whatever reasons and hire from small programs. It's starting to remind me of when Pasqualoni was coaching.

We never seem to have the money to steal one away from another BCS program as a lateral move.

Oh my.

You mean when we hired guys like Jim Reid, Steve Dunlap, Tyrell Austin, Brian Stewart, Steve Addazzio, Jerry Azzinaro, Jeff Stoudtland, and on and on???

Please, stop trying to figure out coaching talent. Give Shafer some credit.

The problems in the early 2000s were not the assistant coaches - the problems were money, AstroTurf and lack of talent.

Did it ever occur to anybody that Shafer asked Perles to leave - that he had this guy in mind all along?

 

[anglerman]

SU is never going to lure lateral moves out of BCS schools.

With ACC money they should be able to lure some people from other BCS schools in the very near future. There will be no reason that they shouldn't be able to pay highly competetive salaries The influx of cash to the programs should be massive compared to what they had in the BE.