New Starting QB on Friday?

[Entropic]

The over the top Devito criticism on this board was more about the emotional investment in Dungey, and TD was not ED, than any actual evaluation of the complete crap show that Devito played in here.

I think the criticism had more to do with a guy who had all the physical tools to be a high level QB but didn't have the in game mental sharpness and then quit half way through his last year at Syracuse after losing the starting job.

Yes there was definitely frustration from fans based on expectations that were ultimately too high. TD at Illinois was allowed to be a game manager. His physical skills suggested he should have been more but he wasn't. Syracuse needed someone to be a gamer. Put the team on their back and go. TD wasn't that and that was frustrating based on expectations from someone who was supposed to be an elite player. He was also a Captain and those teams had a lot of discipline issues. Remember TD smiling sitting next to a player who was flipping off the camera?

 

[OrangeTarheel]

I think the criticism had more to do with a guy who had all the physical tools to be a high level QB but didn't have the in game mental sharpness and then quit half way through his last year at Syracuse after losing the starting job.

Yes there was definitely frustration from fans based on expectations that were ultimately too high. TD at Illinois was allowed to be a game manager. His physical skills suggested he should have been more but he wasn't. Syracuse needed someone to be a gamer. Put the team on their back and go. TD wasn't that and that was frustrating based on expectations from someone who was supposed to be an elite player. He was also a Captain and those teams had a lot of discipline issues. Remember TD smiling sitting next to a player who was flipping off the camera?

Yeah that was Taj Harris wasn’t it?

 

[bnoro]

It says a lot about the staff's job at evaluating QBs if the choices on roster are:

McCord: 'couldn't miss' option that fell into our lap due to previous connections
Angeli: only got him because he fell into our lap due to previous connections with Nunz
Collins: Was a early portal entry that only SU seemed to pursue
Jakhari: Babers recruit, but current staff seems to have no interest
Carney: Somehow not the undisputed option after 4 games of Collins
Belin: Not mentioned at all
Filardi: Walk-on true freshman that somehow has been mentioned as our best option

The guys we have currently committed don't really move the needle with me either as 'can't miss' prospects. All seem like development guys.

 

[OttosShoes]

All seem like development guys.

Indeed, and Fran is a developer. When you've got a hammer you look for nails.

Clearly not panning out with Rickie and maybe nobody else on this year's roster. But guys like Josh Allen and Tom Brady were underrated and needed and got development. Even somebody like Lamar Jackson was 'only' a 4-star and within Fran's recruiting envelope.

This year is discouraging AF but I'm not over the staff on it. Roll the dice, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

 

[wiseman3]

By god that's Steve Angeli's music!

New QB1 confirmed. Scooting into the endzone

 

[Rufus_13th]

By god that's Steve Angeli's music!

New QB1 confirmed. Scooting into the endzone

Not letting him play in the scooter should be an ADA lawsuit. Lol.

In fact, let gim play, but any hits on him is an auto flag, plus charges of assault on a disabled person will be issued by OC Prosecutor Office.

 

[Archbold44]

Not letting him play in the scooter should be an ADA lawsuit. Lol.

In fact, let gim play, but any hits on him is an auto flag, plus charges of assault on a disabled person will be issued by OC Prosecutor Office.

Diego Pavia's attorney will take our call.

Bernie Kosar had an OK NFL career for someone with less mobility than Steve in a scooter...

 

[FloridaCuse]

By god that's Steve Angeli's music!

New QB1 confirmed. Scooting into the endzone

Steve throwing from the cart is our best option at QB for tomorrow night.

 

[DPCuse]

How can Filardi be up to speed on the offense but Carney, who was the QB3 and QB2 for the last month, not be well versed as HCFB said?

 

[Archbold44]

How can Filardi be up to speed on the offense but Carney, who was the QB3 and QB2 for the last month, not be well versed as HCFB said?

Who gets the most passing attempts for us this week? Collins, Carney, Filardi, or someone else?

 

[721Comstock]

Who gets the most passing attempts for us this week? Collins, Carney, Filardi, or someone else?

Yes!

 

[orangecuse]

Plus, he's sly like a fox, slippery as an eel, has a memory like an elephant, strong as an ox, wise as an owl and has a dawg mentality.

And...

 

[orangecuse]

#1, appeasing the fans IS part of his job. We are the ones that decide whether to buy tickets or watch the game. If I prefer to NOT watch the same story play out week after week, that is my choice. If he wants me to watch the game, so that the AD can make more money, so that he can get paid more and have more resources... then I would recommend a product with hope for something. I am not demanding a win. I am just demanding hope... which Rickie cannot provide. At this point, I would just like to see us not being blown out before the 4th quarter.

#2 I am also demanding to not see the same terrible story over and over again. The beauty of sports is that it is not supposed to be scripted. I am not supposed to KNOW that on 1st and 1 from the 1... we will NOT score. I am not supposed to KNOW that on 3rd and 1 from anywhere, Rickie is not picking up that first down and neither will Nixon or Willis out of the backfield. This is the worst offense that I have seen since GRob's first year. No excuse. Nixon is not a rookie OC. Nixon has "his" offense. Rickie has an offense that would suit him. These two offenses clearly do not align. Perhaps changing QBs will force Nixon to try something else.

#3 Who said anything about expectations? We have a kid just out of high school. We do not expect him to have a QBR of 150. But can the kid get his own game of 10 drives to see what he can do with his arm and feet??? The bar is absurdly low. GRob's 2005 team went 1-10 and scored 11 PPG in its losses. Can we get 10 points before the half? Can we get 3 FGs and a TD to score 20 in a game?

#4 I am resigned to a season of 3, 4, or 5 wins. My over/under was 5.5. You cannot play Tennesee, Clemson, ND, Georgia Tech, SMU, and Miami on the road and expect to win more than 1. I did not think we could get the monkey off our back against Pitt... and was very worried about Duke given what they did last year and who they added. I figured 1-5 on the road... and either 4-2 or 5-1 at home. 4-2 at home is still on the table.

Edit: #5. If a guy struggles this year and it ruins his career emotionally, good riddance. I worry more about injuries than hurt feelings/ego. Dungey and Haynes King type guys are needed. Not people who need to take their cat to the grocery store for companionship...

Dude, as it was implied to I in the Ricky thread, you also apparently need to work on that 'empathy' skill set, trait, etc. you're lacking. Shattered life long dreams at the ripe 'ol age of 20 is quite daunting, and, one in which he may not ever quite find his way again from.

 

[Pyle]

How can Filardi be up to speed on the offense but Carney, who was the QB3 and QB2 for the last month, not be well versed as HCFB said?

Who said he's up to speed on the offense? Fran said he may be our best QB once he develops or did I misunderstand something?

I know everyone is hyped up to see all these qbs and happy we opened up the competition. Try to remember a few 'real world' things and if you're ok with these things that's OK. But they could still happen...

Possible split in the locker room - some want Filardi, some want Carney, etc

Splitting 1st team reps between 4 guys on a short week could easily lead to none of them being ready for Friday.

IF we are mixing them in during the game, you open the possibility of more false starts as cadences change, timing issues between WR/QB on quick passes, RB/QB handoffs, etc.

Communication issues between QBs and the staff.

I sincerely hope whoever is behind center finds success and I'm not here to tell people they are wrong for wanting a change. Just remember that change doesn't necessarily mean better.

The thing that concerns me at this point...Fran has not indicated that any one of the QBs in reserve was simply waiting for Ricky to fail to get his shot. He had to 'open the competition'. When you have 4 QBs you don't have any. Nobody has stepped up enough in practice for Fran to say ok Ricky you're out and XYZ is in. Instead we have..."Ricky's not getting it done so we'll let anyone try" - to me that is not a good sign.

 

[orangepassion]

Who gets the most passing attempts for us this week? Collins, Carney, Filardi, or someone else?

Put them all out there at once. They won't know where the pass is coming from.

 

[Archbold44]

Dude, as it was implied to I in the Ricky thread, you also apparently need to work on that 'empathy' skill set, trait, etc. you're lacking. Shattered life long dreams at the ripe 'ol age of 20 is quite daunting, and, one in which he may not ever quite find his way again from.

Nothing says empathy like an ad hominem attack on a sports message board.

What 20-year old are you talking about? Rickie? My comment had nothing to do with Rickie. This was in response to the notion that we should not let any of the freshman QBs get PT because it would damage HIS confidence to play early and not succeed. Arch Manning has struggled this year. Not a freshman, not his first rodeo. If you want to be a QB to follow your "life long dreams," you better get real good at not letting failures stop you. Pitt's FR QB played well his first two games... then we hit him with a different defense and he had his worst game. I do not recall him pouting. He stayed in the game, played hurt, and got the win. This is a game where mental toughness must be among your best assets... might as well learn it now with less at stake. If Rickie had gotten more opportunities at LSU, he might have gotten to face some adversity. Instead, having NOT faced adversity yet on the field, now he must.

How am I lacking empathy? What about empathy for Gill, Villari, and Cook, who are seeing their WR numbers nosedive? Or for Willis/Nixon... who have no running space? Are we really not making substitutions because it shows a lack of empathy?

Is it more empathic to give someone a fish or teach them to fish? Giving someone a fish feeds them for a meal. Teaching them to fish could feed them for life. If someone asked you for a fish, responding by teaching them to fish would be the nicest thing one can do.

Rickie was thrown out there to replace Angeli, who was replacing McCord. Rickie is neither and the play calls need to reflect that. Returning him to the bench for a spell could very well restore his life long dreams. Whatever offense they will let the freshmen run, perhaps Rickie can run THAT better. Maybe he will come in as a relief QB and finally have his success. In contrast, sending him out there to be booed against UNC is not helping his career or his mental state. If/when Carney gets in there and does no better (or worse), Rickie might get to be the hero to his teammates, fans, and self.

 

[Pyle]

Nothing says empathy like an ad hominem attack on a sports message board.

What 20-year old are you talking about? Rickie? My comment had nothing to do with Rickie. This was in response to the notion that we should not let any of the freshman QBs get PT because it would damage HIS confidence to play early and not succeed. Arch Manning has struggled this year. Not a freshman, not his first rodeo. If you want to be a QB to follow your "life long dreams," you better get real good at not letting failures stop you. Pitt's FR QB played well his first two games... then we hit him with a different defense and he had his worst game. I do not recall him pouting. He stayed in the game, played hurt, and got the win. This is a game where mental toughness must be among your best assets... might as well learn it now with less at stake. If Rickie had gotten more opportunities at LSU, he might have gotten to face some adversity. Instead, having NOT faced adversity yet on the field, now he must.

How am I lacking empathy? What about empathy for Gill, Villari, and Cook, who are seeing their WR numbers nosedive? Or for Willis/Nixon... who have no running space? Are we really not making substitutions because it shows a lack of empathy?

Is it more empathic to give someone a fish or teach them to fish? Giving someone a fish feeds them for a meal. Teaching them to fish could feed them for life. If someone asked you for a fish, responding by teaching them to fish would be the nicest thing one can do.

Rickie was thrown out there to replace Angeli, who was replacing McCord. Rickie is neither and the play calls need to reflect that. Returning him to the bench for a spell could very well restore his life long dreams. Whatever offense they will let the freshmen run, perhaps Rickie can run THAT better. Maybe he will come in as a relief QB and finally have his success. In contrast, sending him out there to be booed against UNC is not helping his career or his mental state. If/when Carney gets in there and does no better (or worse), Rickie might get to be the hero to his teammates, fans, and self.

Words.....especially the part about teaching someone to fish which is about teaching skills not about handling adversity.

Throwing freshmen who aren't ready onto the field too early fails more often than it succeeds and we've seen it here. -

Joe Fields. Did it ruin his life? No. You can stop with the exaggerations. But it did ruin his QB career although he went on to be a pretty good S.

How did Andrew Robinson do getting thrown behind a bad O-line and lousy OC? Oh yeah, 2nd string TE.

Edit: I removed my insulting comment that previously existed here. Apologies to Archbold.

 

[mark79]

I mean, on Halloween I look like Colonel Sanders.

The rest of the time it's more like the cowboy from The Village People.

Dang you’re on fire!!

 

[orangecuse]

Nothing says empathy like an ad hominem attack on a sports message board.

What 20-year old are you talking about? Rickie? My comment had nothing to do with Rickie. This was in response to the notion that we should not let any of the freshman QBs get PT because it would damage HIS confidence to play early and not succeed. Arch Manning has struggled this year. Not a freshman, not his first rodeo. If you want to be a QB to follow your "life long dreams," you better get real good at not letting failures stop you. Pitt's FR QB played well his first two games... then we hit him with a different defense and he had his worst game. I do not recall him pouting. He stayed in the game, played hurt, and got the win. This is a game where mental toughness must be among your best assets... might as well learn it now with less at stake. If Rickie had gotten more opportunities at LSU, he might have gotten to face some adversity. Instead, having NOT faced adversity yet on the field, now he must.

How am I lacking empathy? What about empathy for Gill, Villari, and Cook, who are seeing their WR numbers nosedive? Or for Willis/Nixon... who have no running space? Are we really not making substitutions because it shows a lack of empathy?

Is it more empathic to give someone a fish or teach them to fish? Giving someone a fish feeds them for a meal. Teaching them to fish could feed them for life. If someone asked you for a fish, responding by teaching them to fish would be the nicest thing one can do.

Rickie was thrown out there to replace Angeli, who was replacing McCord. Rickie is neither and the play calls need to reflect that. Returning him to the bench for a spell could very well restore his life long dreams. Whatever offense they will let the freshmen run, perhaps Rickie can run THAT better. Maybe he will come in as a relief QB and finally have his success. In contrast, sending him out there to be booed against UNC is not helping his career or his mental state. If/when Carney gets in there and does no better (or worse), Rickie might get to be the hero to his teammates, fans, and self.

I wasn't attacking you in any way, shape or form.

I apologize that that was your interpretation from my post. The paragraph I bolded, specifically the,"ruins his career emotionally," which triggered my response, was in reference to the Ricky thread where I posted a particular (unfavorable) sentiment on how another poster "felt bad for Ricky." And, how his 'life long dreams' (at 20) where shattered, etc. or along those lines. Therefore, lacking empathy...me that is. My post, was sarcasm, which obviously was a big swing and miss. Peace.

 

[SUDadx2]

Look for Filardi on Friday.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Look for Filardi on Friday.

Also, look to dad tax your kiddos' Halloween candy on Friday.

Keep it here.

 

[Pyle]

the,"ruins his career emotionally,"

Is this referring to me? If it is I think you misunderstand who that was referencing or perhaps I wasn't clear. I'm not concerned about ruining a QB whose not performing. I'm worried about forcing kids onto the field that aren't ready i.e. the freshman. And if it wasn't...go Cuse!

 

[Pyle]

Nothing says empathy like an ad hominem attack on a sports message board.

What 20-year old are you talking about? Rickie? My comment had nothing to do with Rickie. This was in response to the notion that we should not let any of the freshman QBs get PT because it would damage HIS confidence to play early and not succeed. Arch Manning has struggled this year. Not a freshman, not his first rodeo. If you want to be a QB to follow your "life long dreams," you better get real good at not letting failures stop you. Pitt's FR QB played well his first two games... then we hit him with a different defense and he had his worst game. I do not recall him pouting. He stayed in the game, played hurt, and got the win. This is a game where mental toughness must be among your best assets... might as well learn it now with less at stake. If Rickie had gotten more opportunities at LSU, he might have gotten to face some adversity. Instead, having NOT faced adversity yet on the field, now he must.

How am I lacking empathy? What about empathy for Gill, Villari, and Cook, who are seeing their WR numbers nosedive? Or for Willis/Nixon... who have no running space? Are we really not making substitutions because it shows a lack of empathy?

Is it more empathic to give someone a fish or teach them to fish? Giving someone a fish feeds them for a meal. Teaching them to fish could feed them for life. If someone asked you for a fish, responding by teaching them to fish would be the nicest thing one can do.

Rickie was thrown out there to replace Angeli, who was replacing McCord. Rickie is neither and the play calls need to reflect that. Returning him to the bench for a spell could very well restore his life long dreams. Whatever offense they will let the freshmen run, perhaps Rickie can run THAT better. Maybe he will come in as a relief QB and finally have his success. In contrast, sending him out there to be booed against UNC is not helping his career or his mental state. If/when Carney gets in there and does no better (or worse), Rickie might get to be the hero to his teammates, fans, and self.

My last post on this...I know you and I have been jabbing back and forth a bit on this one. I just want to apologize for the lousy comment at the end of my last post to you. It was unnecessary and it's been removed. I'm trying to kill my inner-troll. Some days are better than others.

What's done is done, I was just voicing concerns but support whoever is under center. I admit I could be completely wrong about all of this. I don't know your age or care to know. I do know mine and I come from a time of redshirts and 5th/6th year seniors. A time before NIL when players had to sit a year just to transfer anywhere. That allowed you time to let guys sit longer, develop college skills off the field, build up their physical attributes/skills, build up the mental part of the game. In today's transfer portal/NIL world, maybe you don't care if a guy gets broken because you have 30 more waiting in the portal? The game has changed, I admit I have not.

 

[bnoro]

How can Filardi be up to speed on the offense but Carney, who was the QB3 and QB2 for the last month, not be well versed as HCFB said?

There is no way Filardi is more up to speed than Carney. If he is, Carney ain't the guy either then.

Guessing it's wishful thinking from an overzealous sports radio host more than fact.

 

[orangepassion]

Look for Filardi on Friday.

It's Filardi Friday